336:(Based on Canadian Government documentation) but we can also take other sources as well "Human geography: landscapes of human activities" By J. Fellmann, A. Getis, J. Getis, "Modernity and the Stateless: The Kurdish Question in Iran (Library of Modern Middle East Studies)" By A. Vali, "Encyclopedia of the Stateless Nations" By J. Minahan, "World Politics in the 21st Century" By W. Duncan, B. Jancar-Webster, B. Switky, "The complete idiot's guide to geography" By J. Gonzalez, T.E. Sherer; some of these books also cover Tibet and other stateless nations not yet covered by the article as well.
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Please can you go and discuss this somewhere policy related and come back to AFD when there is a clear view on what the policy should be? I recall my school encyclopedia had a gallery of flags and I'm sure we kept something similar at DRV as being clearly encyclopedic. AFD is not the forum for making
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Congressional Record! And the New Yorker article uses the weasley "some say" that Kurdistan is a "stateless nation"; it is not making that claim itself. It is a term used by political campaigners to advocate for ethnic nationalism and against inclusion in a
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If you want, you can initiate concurrent deletion discussions on the larger articles. I think the dynamic in a combined discussion would be different, though; as you well know, because for example, proposing the deletion of the micronation flags gallery would probably attract the protestations of
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the outcome of a bulk delete doesn't have to be a no consensus it can be a combination of deletes, merges, and transwikis. There may be some merit in merging stateless nations with either
Micronations or unrecognised states or both - but as a picture gallery all of the articles should reside on
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as well as various reliable political and sociological texts are far from POV even if not directly cited in this article. Whilst these three links are for
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