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563:- It's a really horrible idea to let WP content (or lack thereof) be controlled by the subjects themselves. There should be a brick wall between the whims of subjects and the actual content of the encyclopedia. Anthony and I have disagreed on this vehemently for a long time and will continue to disagree vehemently on this. We are not here for "courtesy content for marginally notable people." Notable is notable. Non-notable is non-notable. Now somebody needs to shut this sucker down, the nomination is withdrawn. 514:
I take the opposite view. If the subject is marginally notable (whether or not they're a Knowledge (XXG) insider) we should take into account their feelings on the matter. But yes, we should be consistent. If we extend this courtesy to insiders, we should treat non-Wikipedians with the same level of
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which indicates that on May 16, 2008, Ms. Devouard was awarded the national award "Chevalier of the Ordre national du Mérite," which would seem to suffice... "Mme Devouard, née Nibart (Florence, Jacqueline, Sylvie), présidente d'une fondation mondiale ; 15 ans d'activités professionnelles." is the
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Failure to meet the General Notability Guideline. This biography came up in a Wikipediocracy thread as an "inside baseball" type BLP of a former chair of the WMF Trustees which is not supported or supportable by substantial coverage in multiple, independently-published sources of presumed
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Of course. I see no reason "not" to take the opinion into consideration, but I do not feel that they get to decide their own inclusion, especially when they are a Wikipedian. This is only going to cause negativity for Knowledge (XXG) which already comes under fire for its editing issues.
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reliability. After a glance at the first 100 or so responses in a Google search, I tend to agree with this assessment. No strong feelings here, I leave the matter of decision to the community — I just don't want to be accused of looking the other way on a WP insider's bio.
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Lih's book is not enough for me, and would be a very poor test. Per nom and navel gazing. I don't see much difference in deleting this now, or in a year's time, voting to salt "Tim from Davenport" or wherever. But per Tim from Davenport in this earth shaking vote.
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Wait, what? If she is notable, then she is notable. Giving a "Wikipedian" special favors when it comes to notability and not others speaks wonders for the "integrity" of Knowledge (XXG). --
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She appears in numerous books in her role as Foundation head and was knighted by the French government for this. She therefore passes
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official wording. So while the keep argument based on GNG is very, very borderline, this is actually a fairly definite SNG Keep.
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by Claudia Fisher and Christine Vallaster, but that strikes me as mere passing mention. What else is out there?
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That's so cruel. He's lovely. And he likes to keep things. Your a hayter and you make me cry.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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is the link for Lih's book, which counts as 1 towards GNG for my money. I see that she was
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per Randy Framboise/Carrite, who said it better than I ever could. Grill power!
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Note Andrew D. is vastly likely a troll account, given recent form.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Navel gazing. Inside baseball. No notability outside wikipedia.
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