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Knowledge (XXG)'s purpose. I understand Knowledge (XXG) not listing someone like me who has been covered and interviewed by the media many times. But Floyd Bayne could be the next elected Representative of hundreds of thousands of People. Plus there are only 12 more days until the Congressional Election. To delete Floyd Bayne now, put's his opponents with a higher advantage. Deleting Floyd Bayne could also be in violation of Federal Election Laws since Knowledge (XXG) could be considered, if it is not already, a news source which I believe would fall into the category of having to follow Federal Election Laws that require equal time and coverage for ALL CANDIDATES. Joe Cacciotti
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challenge to Eric Cantor, Republican Whip in the House of
Representatives, has forced the incumbent to dramatically alter his plans for the election season, which were initially to promote his book and his party as he easily won re-election in his 70% conservative district. Instead the candidate has been spending resources and time to defend his seat. That means the dialog on the national level has also been changed by this candidate. There is ample and significant press coverage of this candidate to justify his inclusion in this category.
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443:- This candidate is very notable. When you search his name at least 20 search pages on Google from various third party sources come up. He is sited in articles that are from papers all over this district, as well as mentions in major national websites like Redstate.com, and there are even international articles about about Mr. Bayne and his part in the race.
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Melanie, the article is entirely in the context of the election. The headline is "Opponent criticizes Cantor's TARP support." For me, this is far below the bar of significant coverage required by GNG if a candidate fails WP:POLITICAN. Your mileage may vary, but I think this is an insignificant fringe
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for an example of the opposite, showing no history at all of what was in the previous article. That article was actually deleted, then a redirect was added after the fact. That's why it's wrong to do deletes in these cases, and that's been the consensus achieved in many, many AfD requests for various
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Republican representative in the Federal government, Bayne has received a significant amount of coverage, and has drastically altered the political conversations in Virginia. His
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Ray do you know how to use Google? This candidate has gotten more than one write up in more than a dozen papers, as well as a write up in national, frequently sited redstate.com, and international press stemming from him being the only candidate for the
Virginia Tea Party Convention with
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Ray quit embarasing yourself. You are showing that you are either biased with an agenda to delete this article or you can't read Floyd Bayne has dozens of writeups in many different newspappers and has been on all the
District Television stations.
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doing the redirect, particularly so close to the election date. It's disingenuous to the election date is immaterial in the case of election-related articles. At
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Gobono this article isn't about Cantor not debating. It is about the very notable Floyd who has dozens of search pages with many secondary source News Papers and Tv stations interviewing him about the race.
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and other tea party notables. Dude I am trying to assume good faith, but you are not looking at proof of notability, which is leading me to think you have a dog in this race aka an agenda.
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THIS IS GARBAGE. ERIC CANTOR IS JUST HAVING HIS OPPONENTS' PROFILES TAKEN DOWN. JUST ANOTHER DIRTY TRICK FROM ERIC CANTOR.
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No, he was not. He is a candidate of the Independent Green Party and got on the ballot by petition.
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