1241:— I's not a good merger candidate. The list of Internet phenomena is a list article, intended as a comprehensive catalog. The primary criteria for inclusion in that list are that the subject is notable, and that it is indeed an Internet phenomenon / meme / viral video, etc. If the subject is notable it's probably worth its own article, and we shouldn't stuff the content somewhere else as a holding pen. If the result here is keep, then subject to editorial discretion over there, it may be suitable to add a brief description and link to this article. -
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Winston is a notable person and that there is reliable
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got some delete votes in her 2nd AfD. So it goes. I didn't just give you youtube uploads (which is a questionable phrasing, youtube is simply hosting 100s of clips of TV broadcasts being interrupted; I didn't argue those show notability, just to get people to wrap their minds around the scope of
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I am saying it is already covered in the press; I mean it is going to therefore be covered somewhere on wikipedia. Especially when you realize you can't just search the term as is to find sources, many euphemisms get used to avoid putting "fuck her right in the pussy" in
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miscellaneous minor incidents do nto make a meme. This is not so notably vu;gar as to be appropriate for noticing in an encyclopedia. We cover the fdigusting oartts of the world, to be sure, but wee dont't make a special effort to seek them out. The rule is NOT
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American college football players, and he only did it last month because it is now a commonplace thing to shout among young males. Compilations of the events abound (a few of these clips are staged, but almost all are not):
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