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393:—i'd really like to be able to take your comment seriously, but without more detail, i don't see how i can. would you mind explaining which of the sources Cullen328 listed above are not reliable and which are not third-party and why? the only one there that's not third party is the list of awards that the book has won, which is on the author's website, but each and every one of these awards is independently verifiable and i'm assuming that Cullen328 just meant that one link as shorthand. also, would you mind explaining what you mean when you say that the "references show that the book is not notable"? how could that happen, that they *show* it's not notable?— 217: 225: 233: 237: 439:
there, DonCalo? Either the references are unreliable and"so-called" (in which case they can't be used to "prove" anything) or they're probative, in which case they aren't unreliable. And even if they are reliable, it beats me how a reference can prove non-notability.
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This article is a mess, barely (if at all) remarkable, in my opinion. Serious cleanup would be necessary by an author who is familiar with this book. The article has been tagged with cleanup tags however no substancial effort has been made
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ah, just so. i'm sorry about mentioning that without having taken the time to understand the salient point in the closing of the first nomination.—
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sufficient reason to delete an article (which isn't IMV that much of a mess anyway and which I see has already been appropriately tagged with
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the recent speedy keep was procedural; the nominator had inadvertently omitted to supply a deletion reason, which per
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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I'll leave my comment intact in case anyone else wonders what's going on with the swift re-nomination!
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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nominator even admits the purpose is cleanup rather than satisfaction of gng.—
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is a reason for speedily keeping. That shouldn't affect this nomination.
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this was just speedily kept four hours ago! what's different now?
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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120: 116: 112: 176: 190: 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 490:). No further edits should be made to this page. 216:The book has been discussed in reliable sources 412:list of Literature-related deletion discussions 263:I added a couple of references to the article. 8: 410:Note: This debate has been included in the 409: 315:Knowledge (XXG):Speedy_keep#Applicability 72:Articles for deletion/Full Tilt (novel) 69: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 68: 24: 456:, per Cullen328. "Being a mess" 348:No problem, and thanks for the 437:having your cake and eating it 1: 473:21:59, 2 October 2011 (UTC) 445:22:33, 2 October 2011 (UTC) 427:19:41, 2 October 2011 (UTC) 403:15:03, 2 October 2011 (UTC) 382:07:30, 2 October 2011 (UTC) 357:22:21, 2 October 2011 (UTC) 344:22:08, 2 October 2011 (UTC) 322:22:06, 2 October 2011 (UTC) 306:05:07, 2 October 2011 (UTC) 279:04:59, 2 October 2011 (UTC) 256:04:46, 2 October 2011 (UTC) 208:03:58, 2 October 2011 (UTC) 56:02:19, 9 October 2011 (UTC) 507: 483:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 67:AfDs for this article: 395:alf.laylah.wa.laylah 336:alf.laylah.wa.laylah 298:alf.laylah.wa.laylah 288:—per Cullen328 and 44:The result was 429: 415: 87:Full Tilt (novel) 62:Full Tilt (novel) 498: 485: 467: 416: 276: 274:Let's discuss it 268: 253: 251:Let's discuss it 245: 206: 195: 194: 180: 128: 110: 34: 506: 505: 501: 500: 499: 497: 496: 495: 494: 488:deletion review 481: 461: 272: 266: 249: 243: 202: 137: 101: 85: 82: 65: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 504: 502: 493: 492: 476: 475: 450: 449: 448: 447: 407: 406: 405: 385: 384: 366: 365: 364: 363: 362: 361: 360: 359: 327: 326: 325: 324: 283: 282: 281: 198: 197: 134: 81: 80: 79: 74: 66: 64: 59: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 503: 491: 489: 484: 478: 477: 474: 471: 468:since 2009). 465: 459: 455: 452: 451: 446: 443: 438: 434: 431: 430: 428: 424: 420: 413: 408: 404: 400: 396: 392: 389: 388: 387: 386: 383: 379: 375: 371: 368: 367: 358: 355: 351: 347: 346: 345: 341: 337: 333: 332: 331: 330: 329: 328: 323: 320: 316: 312: 309: 308: 307: 303: 299: 295: 291: 290:WP:NOTCLEANUP 287: 284: 280: 277: 275: 270: 269: 262: 259: 258: 257: 254: 252: 247: 246: 239: 235: 231: 227: 223: 219: 215: 212: 211: 210: 209: 205: 193: 189: 186: 183: 179: 175: 171: 168: 165: 162: 159: 156: 153: 150: 147: 143: 140: 139:Find sources: 135: 132: 126: 122: 118: 114: 109: 105: 100: 96: 92: 88: 84: 83: 78: 75: 73: 70: 63: 60: 58: 57: 54: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 482: 479: 453: 432: 390: 369: 349: 310: 293: 285: 273: 265: 260: 250: 242: 213: 203: 199: 187: 181: 173: 166: 160: 154: 148: 138: 45: 43: 31: 28: 435:aren't you 164:free images 470:Tonywalton 442:Tonywalton 354:Tonywalton 319:Tonywalton 419:• Gene93k 350:strikeout 204:Petiatil 131:View log 48:. v/r - 433:Comment 374:DonCalo 311:Comment 261:Comment 170:WP refs 158:scholar 104:protect 99:history 370:Delete 267:Cullen 244:Cullen 142:Google 108:delete 458:isn't 391:query 185:JSTOR 146:books 125:views 117:watch 113:links 16:< 464:Plot 454:Keep 423:talk 399:talk 378:talk 340:talk 302:talk 286:keep 238:here 236:and 234:here 232:and 230:here 228:and 226:here 224:and 222:here 220:and 218:here 214:Keep 178:FENS 152:news 121:logs 95:talk 91:edit 46:keep 292:. 192:TWL 129:– ( 466:}} 462:{{ 425:) 417:— 414:. 401:) 380:) 342:) 304:) 172:) 123:| 119:| 115:| 111:| 106:| 102:| 97:| 93:| 421:( 397:( 376:( 338:( 300:( 196:) 188:· 182:· 174:· 167:· 161:· 155:· 149:· 144:( 136:( 133:) 127:) 89:( 53:P 50:T

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