938:- Now I am really confused, you don't make something encyclopedic by just improving grammar and everything, the thing is, articles on feuds like this simply do not belong in an encyclopedia, an above user mentioned the "Donald Trump and Rosie O'Donnell controversy" not belonging here, which is obviously much more notable than G-Unit's feuds. I think I already explained this to you, but you just keep going and going. Also, this discussion is turning into a discussion between you and I, maybe we should wait before we add anything else until someone else comes here and gives their opinion. ---
1270:- The article does have 31 references, but it is not enough, there are just as many sections I believe or more. I am going to improve grammar and spelling as much as I can, and the people that want to keep this article, I suggest you try to get more sources. Much more, because the Big Pun feud, the Jay-Z feud, the Diddy feud, the Styles P feud, and more, have no sources. I will do everything I can and starting within the next 10 minutes, I will keep trying to improve everything I can. G-Unit-Boss, and everyone else, please help. ---
754:-Another reason to keep is because there have been no prior warning that this articles sources need to be checked or changed and so the regular editors have not noticed. There have, however been notices to notify us of a need to be cleaned up and for the grammar to be fixed and this is being worked on. If we were given another chance, we could get this article fixed and up to Wikipedias standards. Thanks. --
912:- I still don't understand what you are talking about. Are you saying, that you can make this article that is un-encyclopedic be encyclopedic? By that I mean that you and some other editors can make these feuds be appropriate for an encyclopledia. How are you going to do that? I mean, even if you had many references, and everything else was fine, I still don't believe this would be enyclopedic. ---
1368:- Too bad your improvements weren't good enough and so led to the AfD. Besides, it's not how many edits you have, it's the quality of the edits. I have about 70 edits, and it would all be pointless if I didn't help, instead creating edit wars and such. Also, whether or not you worked hard or more than me is irrelevant, as if you don't find sources, the article will be deleted. ---
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1473:, seems to be pure OR with Cite tags at the end of every other sentence and this is despite both it's main editors having about a hundred edits each on this article alone. And the group of articles mentioned in the middle of this AfD need to go as well. This article clearly violates policy, I have no idea why this AfD is this long.
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1317:- No, it is not, look at how many unsourced statements there are, and you barely started to improve the article a few hours ago. There is still a lot of work to be done. I also changed your vote from keep to comment. See above, it is not just me who says you should not use keep twice. ---
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1002:-But what we are trying to say is that this is and can be encyclopedic and it is a very informative article. The references have no problems although some would like to think that they do, and yes it does need cleaning up but how can that be done if it is deleted?--
872:-Why dont all of the people who so badly want to remove this one have a look at those which are far worse and should be deleted first. This article still has some hope of being improved whereas the articles listed above are a wreck. Thanks. --
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984:. I mean, Donald Trump is much more notable than G-Unit, and his feud is not here, so why should there be a page for G-Unit's feuds? I suggest you just take some of the information from this article and add it into
792:- Just don't say you did not have a warning, also, as I said, that is probably not a good reason to keep, and although the references are OK I guess, the article itself simply should not be in an encyclopedia. ---
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778:-Hi, I know but it said 'unreferenced' and so I was adding new references. It didnt say anything to do with 'bad references' and also I have addressed the other notices. We were fixing them. Thanks. --
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1072:- By the way, please stop correcting me on whether or not I say "vote" or "discuss" as I could easily correct your horrid grammar, but I choose not to. Thank you. ---
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