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304:, the borderline between trivial and non-trivial is unclear, since it allows that the subject "need not be the main topic of the source material", but doesn't specify how much is needed for something to become significant. I am leaning towards keeping this because there are enough articles that give her a few sentences. And while this itself is not reason to keep, I think it is very likely that when she dies, all the news services in Japan will report that, thus giving her dozens of articles in which she is the main topic--and thus clearly enough coverage to deserve an article. 207:'s requirement of non-trivial coverage in multiple, independent third-party sources. All three sources on the page are nothing more than trivial mentions of the individual and, considering that she was anonymous up until a few days ago, it's highly unlikely that the necessary sources exist to satisfy the requirements in either Japanese or English (and I couldn't find any). Normally I might suggest merging, but there's nothing encyclopedic here that isn't available already at 321:
An issue that concerns me with many articles such as this are the so-called "Longevity milestones". Surely many/all of these must constitute original research unless there is a citation which specifically mentions that a milestone has been reached and is therefore notable? If these, and other uncited
279:. This seems to be borderline to me. The issue is not whether age is inherently notable, but how much coverage there is. A search of Japanese sources comes up with coverage in several dozen independent third-party sources (for instance, 300:, etc. etc.). Most, however, only mention her in a sentence in an article on the current aged population in Japan, although some give several sentences on her current condition (thus taking up about 10% of the article length). In 172: 127: 256: 166: 234: 383:
as above. The article here contains minimal biographical information and is padded out with information about other "oldest people". News coverage is basically
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Since there is no policy that says that the oldest person in Japan or the fourth-oldest in the world is automatically notable, this article fails
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somewhere?) Nevertheless, since there does seem to be some coverage of her, so we can probably merge info about her somewhere.
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or any other related longevity lists. The only real information is her name and birth date, the rest is just
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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claims in the lede, are discounted from this article is there anything worthwhile left?
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per above comments. I don't think age is a claim to notability (isn't that in an
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
117: 113: 109: 387:, and general notability is not really established. -- 179: 408:
as above. Seems the most sensible course of action.
193: 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 448:). No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 255:Note: This debate has been included in the 233:Note: This debate has been included in the 257:list of People-related deletion discussions 254: 235:list of Japan-related deletion discussions 232: 334:I added some information about her. -- 361:where the individual has a profile as 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 416:List of Japanese supercentenarians 406:List of Japanese supercentenarians 381:List of Japanese supercentenarians 355:List of Japanese supercentenarians 52:List of Japanese supercentenarians 24: 427:15:15, 21 September 2012 (UTC) 397:13:21, 20 September 2012 (UTC) 372:02:45, 20 September 2012 (UTC) 344:06:54, 16 September 2012 (UTC) 327:00:17, 16 September 2012 (UTC) 314:23:57, 15 September 2012 (UTC) 271:21:06, 15 September 2012 (UTC) 249:21:05, 15 September 2012 (UTC) 227:18:41, 15 September 2012 (UTC) 70:01:23, 22 September 2012 (UTC) 1: 465: 437:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 48:The result was 424:Narutolovehinata5 273: 260: 251: 238: 57:non-admin closure 456: 439: 370: 325: 261: 239: 224: 219: 198: 197: 183: 135: 125: 107: 65: 34: 464: 463: 459: 458: 457: 455: 454: 453: 452: 446:deletion review 435: 366: 324:DerbyCountyinNZ 323: 222: 217: 140: 131: 98: 82: 79: 63: 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 462: 460: 451: 450: 430: 429: 409: 399: 374: 347: 346: 329: 316: 274: 252: 201: 200: 137: 78: 73: 64:TheSpecialUser 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 461: 449: 447: 443: 438: 432: 431: 428: 425: 421: 417: 413: 410: 407: 403: 400: 398: 394: 390: 386: 382: 378: 375: 373: 369: 364: 360: 359:Kinsan Ginsan 356: 352: 349: 348: 345: 341: 337: 333: 330: 328: 320: 317: 315: 311: 307: 303: 299: 296: 293: 290: 287: 284: 281: 278: 275: 272: 268: 264: 258: 253: 250: 246: 242: 236: 231: 230: 229: 228: 225: 220: 214: 210: 209:Oldest people 206: 196: 192: 189: 186: 182: 178: 174: 171: 168: 165: 162: 159: 156: 153: 150: 146: 143: 142:Find sources: 138: 134: 129: 123: 119: 115: 111: 106: 102: 97: 93: 89: 85: 81: 80: 77: 74: 72: 71: 68: 67: 66: 58: 54: 53: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 436: 433: 411: 401: 376: 350: 331: 318: 276: 202: 190: 184: 176: 169: 163: 157: 151: 141: 61: 60: 49: 47: 31: 28: 167:free images 368:Jun Kayama 84:Koto Okubo 76:Koto Okubo 442:talk page 306:Michitaro 263:• Gene93k 241:• Gene93k 50:merge to 37:talk page 444:or in a 385:WP:BLP1E 218:Canadian 128:View log 39:or in a 363:Tarento 332:Comment 319:Comment 277:Comment 173:WP refs 161:scholar 101:protect 96:history 213:trivia 145:Google 105:delete 420:essay 414:into 412:Merge 404:into 402:Merge 379:into 377:Merge 353:into 351:Merge 336:高木あゆみ 188:JSTOR 149:books 133:Stats 122:views 114:watch 110:links 16:< 393:talk 389:DAJF 340:talk 310:talk 302:WP:N 267:talk 245:talk 223:Paul 205:WP:N 181:FENS 155:news 118:logs 92:talk 88:edit 195:TWL 130:• 126:– ( 55:. ( 395:) 342:) 312:) 297:, 294:, 291:, 288:, 285:, 282:, 269:) 259:. 247:) 237:. 215:. 175:) 120:| 116:| 112:| 108:| 103:| 99:| 94:| 90:| 59:) 391:( 338:( 308:( 265:( 243:( 199:) 191:· 185:· 177:· 170:· 164:· 158:· 152:· 147:( 139:( 136:) 124:) 86:(

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