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612:- There is no such Knowledge (XXG) policy that I know of that allows deletion in English Knowledge (XXG) space because the subject "indicates possible notability in XX.wiki (say Swedish), but not necessarily in en.wiki. In general if a subject is notable in his/her country, he/she is notable. Period. Take a football player, the best in his country's official professional league, but never mentioned in 644:. Or else, I can name you tens of thousands of English Knowledge (XXG) articles on individuals who have only been mentioned only in their local medias and never in USA or UK, but still merit articles in English Knowledge (XXG). For me, English Knowledge (XXG) does not mean and should not mean A US Knowledge (XXG) or a UK Knowledge (XXG). It just means a 289:
You talk about notability on English and Swedish wikipedia. And totally disregard the fact that this is a well sourced article. And as Dwpaul points out you have no case when it comes to WP:NOTABILITY. Hermansson is a very known name in Sweden atleast in younger circles and she has been feature don
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I second that. Of course notability was established by 14 sources provided no less. The notability tag should have not been even introduced. We must check sources, before adding tags that are not necessary. We editors have translation automated machine tools and not knowing a certain language does
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as it pertains specifically to people). I do not see anything there that establishes some limitation by continent or language, and I see a number of things there that disclaim such limitations. If you have some policy to point to, versus your own, thus far unsupported, concepts of "en.notability"
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Again, I have no strong opinions on her. I only respond to your arguments. Try to stick with the issue. But I would have guessed; nobody wants their article deleted. BabbaQ, this may be personal to you, but it isn't to me (neither towards you or Kakan). No matter what you want to believe, it is a
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Sure, I don't doubt that what is said in the article is supported by the sources. But that is not the same thing as she being notable. Based on what you say on WP:Notability, you seem to have it backwards; notability in sv.wiki does not necessarily mean notability in en.wiki.
656:. Nobody browsing say in Beirut, or Johannesburg, or Rio de Janeiro or in Tokyo should go to Swedish Knowledge (XXG) to find a Swedish notable individual and in case he doesn't know Swedish, well tough luck and all the best to him.. I suggest a strong keep for this article. 324:
According to your way of viewing notability, then yes. But my arguments as well as Dwpaul are based on guidelines for notability and not a personal opinion. About a person that you by your own words "have never heard of or seen before"...Still you have a strong opinion.
208:. All sources are Swedish, and all sources but one in Swedish language, indicating possible notability in sv.wiki, but not necessarily in en.wiki. Google searches find results only in Swedish language. No indication of notability in the English-speaking world. 356:
No, do not worry I dont think you nominated this article in bad faith. I think you are nominating this article based on a flawed view of the guidelines. Or your lack of using the guidelines correctly when placing this article up for deletion.
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not excuse us of putting notability tag without at least reading the provided sources, albeit in roughly translated version which is almost always enough to understand even if not grammatically full-proof.
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several television shows and radio show. Which she has hosted. At the talk page you claim to have never heard of her, still you have a strong opinion about her not being notable. It is a contradiction. --
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lack of notability. Also, it's you who have the burden of proof: you have to demonstrate notability. It's not I who have to demonstrate the lack thereof.
133: 252:. The sources may be in Swedish but the confirm everything mentioned in the article. Also the article seem to pass every single point of the GNG. -- 455:, which you reverted soon after (you don't mention that here for some reason). Don't you want more proof of her notability? Maybe in English? 99: 94: 373:
For a person who "never heard of her" before, you seem to be a person with many strong opinions about this particular person. Interesting.
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You seem to misunderstand me. Where have I said that notability requires sources in English? I have only said that the lack thereof
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There are no "burden of proof" all our arguments are based on guidelines. Kakan Hermansson is covered and notability confirmed.--
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What I "want" is not at issue here. This is question of policy and procedure. I reverted your placement of the
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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You can't compensate a lack of notability with a high (well) number of sources.
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or a financier, an influental one in his own country, but never mentioned in
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Yes, I just initiated the discussion. I also marked the article with
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Well, then why do you question my motives with insinuations such as
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
248:- flawed reasoning for deletion. No such mention is made at 372: 116: 112: 108: 56:: article is presently in Main Page "Did you know...". 180: 194: 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 687:). No further edits should be made to this page. 540:So, the guidelines confirm she's notable? Oh. 428:; my arguments are detailed on the Talk page. 8: 569:versus "sv.notability", please point to it. 224:Note: This debate has been included in the 646:Knowledge (XXG) written in English language 564:(and,as another editor has pointed out, at 413:. This article was just today included at 226:list of Sweden-related deletion discussions 223: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 24: 1: 560:is defined very clearly at 704: 250:Knowledge (XXG):Notability 666:19:56, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 593:20:00, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 578:19:55, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 550:19:54, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 532:19:52, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 514:19:49, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 496:19:41, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 465:19:35, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 437:19:24, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 385:20:08, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 367:20:04, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 350:20:01, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 335:19:53, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 318:19:49, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 300:19:41, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 281:19:35, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 262:19:07, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 238:19:34, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 218:19:04, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 204:Media profile that fails 69:20:02, 19 June 2014 (UTC) 676:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 642:The Wall Street Journal 616:or the sports pages of 411:the article's Talk page 340:good faith nomination. 566:WP:Notability (people) 650:in English language 618:The New York Times 614:Sports Illustrated 407:grossly premature 240: 695: 678: 654:English language 576: 574: 556:What is notable 494: 492: 483:tag because the 482: 476: 454: 448: 435: 433: 199: 198: 184: 136: 124: 106: 83:Kakan Hermansson 75:Kakan Hermansson 60: 48:The result was 34: 703: 702: 698: 697: 696: 694: 693: 692: 691: 685:deletion review 674: 638:Financial Times 572: 570: 558:here in en.wiki 490: 488: 480: 474: 452: 446: 431: 429: 141: 132: 97: 81: 78: 58: 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 701: 699: 690: 689: 669: 668: 607: 606: 605: 604: 603: 602: 601: 600: 599: 598: 597: 596: 595: 553: 552: 535: 534: 517: 516: 468: 467: 440: 439: 402: 401: 400: 399: 398: 397: 396: 395: 394: 393: 392: 391: 390: 389: 388: 387: 321: 320: 303: 302: 284: 283: 265: 264: 242: 241: 202: 201: 138: 77: 72: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 700: 688: 686: 682: 677: 671: 670: 667: 663: 659: 655: 651: 647: 643: 639: 635: 631: 627: 623: 619: 615: 611: 608: 594: 590: 586: 581: 580: 579: 575: 567: 563: 562:WP:Notability 559: 555: 554: 551: 547: 543: 542:HandsomeFella 539: 538: 537: 536: 533: 529: 525: 521: 520: 519: 518: 515: 511: 507: 506:HandsomeFella 503: 499: 498: 497: 493: 486: 479: 472: 471: 470: 469: 466: 462: 458: 457:HandsomeFella 451: 444: 443: 442: 441: 438: 434: 427: 426: 422: 421: 416: 412: 408: 404: 403: 386: 382: 378: 377:HandsomeFella 374: 370: 369: 368: 364: 360: 355: 354: 353: 352: 351: 347: 343: 342:HandsomeFella 338: 337: 336: 332: 328: 323: 322: 319: 315: 311: 310:HandsomeFella 307: 306: 305: 304: 301: 297: 293: 288: 287: 286: 285: 282: 278: 274: 273:HandsomeFella 269: 268: 267: 266: 263: 259: 255: 251: 247: 244: 243: 239: 235: 231: 227: 222: 221: 220: 219: 215: 211: 210:HandsomeFella 207: 197: 193: 190: 187: 183: 179: 175: 172: 169: 166: 163: 160: 157: 154: 151: 147: 144: 143:Find sources: 139: 135: 131: 128: 122: 118: 114: 110: 105: 101: 96: 92: 88: 84: 80: 79: 76: 73: 71: 70: 66: 62: 55: 51: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 675: 672: 653: 652:finds it in 649: 645: 641: 637: 633: 629: 626:Melody Maker 625: 621: 617: 613: 609: 557: 501: 423: 419: 418: 406: 405:This AfD is 245: 203: 191: 185: 177: 170: 164: 158: 152: 142: 129: 49: 47: 31: 28: 425:Speedy Keep 246:Speedy Keep 168:free images 50:Speedy Keep 478:notability 450:notability 681:talk page 658:werldwayd 632:or Paris 622:Billboard 585:werldwayd 502:indicates 54:WP:KEEP#5 37:talk page 683:or in a 634:Le Monde 127:View log 39:or in a 174:WP refs 162:scholar 100:protect 95:history 573:Dwpaul 524:BabbaQ 491:Dwpaul 432:Dwpaul 359:BabbaQ 327:BabbaQ 292:BabbaQ 254:BabbaQ 230:BabbaQ 206:WP:GNG 146:Google 104:delete 61:rose64 630:Times 189:JSTOR 150:books 134:Stats 121:views 113:watch 109:links 16:< 662:talk 610:Keep 589:talk 546:talk 528:talk 510:talk 461:talk 420:Keep 381:talk 363:talk 346:talk 331:talk 314:talk 296:talk 277:talk 258:talk 234:talk 214:talk 182:FENS 156:news 117:logs 91:talk 87:edit 65:talk 52:per 640:or 624:or 485:GNG 415:DYK 375:"? 196:TWL 125:– ( 59:Red 664:) 591:) 548:) 530:) 512:) 481:}} 475:{{ 463:) 453:}} 447:{{ 383:) 365:) 357:-- 348:) 333:) 325:-- 316:) 298:) 279:) 260:) 236:) 228:. 216:) 176:) 119:| 115:| 111:| 107:| 102:| 98:| 93:| 89:| 67:) 660:( 587:( 544:( 526:( 508:( 459:( 379:( 361:( 344:( 329:( 312:( 294:( 275:( 256:( 232:( 212:( 200:) 192:· 186:· 178:· 171:· 165:· 159:· 153:· 148:( 140:( 137:) 130:· 123:) 85:( 63:(

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