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574:. He has a respectable list of articles published in refereeed journals, and a good history of funded research. However, his department head praising him in the aftermath must be taken as a eulogy rather than an objective independent evaluation, and he had only achieved Associate Professor status. When he was murdered in mid-career he had a very bright future. 551:
This nomination does appear to be in good faith. Let's try to be civil here. I realize that this country has had a particular brutal couple of days and that it's very easy to get emotional, but let's try to keep a cool head. Again, I suggest very strongly that this AfD be closed early, as the AfD
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I agree with the above sentiments of Anthony. I've seen many professors that are very notable and don't have an article. There are many profs that meet the notability test that Knowledge (XXG) does not have articles on. I've created articles on some of these, but there are many that are
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The article does not have cited references asserting his notability. Without that, he is only known for being a shooting victim. This is not enough to justify an entire article, only mention in a list of victims for the shooting.
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The research is up to the people adding content in, it has nothing to do with respect. If you want to put something in there you need to support why it should be in there. It is not up to all of us to be your fact checker.
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unrepresented. Sure, he wouldn't have had an article yet if he hadn't been so tragically killed. But he probably would have had an article eventually. ETA: He had 67 publications in journals according to his own site
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seems relevant enough to warrant keeping the Granata article on Knowledge (XXG). Furthermore, as the editor of multiple academic journals, one day this article will link into other articles.
695:- unbelievable request. One of the Top-Scientists of his profession in the USA, a Professor. Dear en:WP - as long as TV-Episodes get their own article, should a professor get his article. 114: 341:"There wouldn't have been an article about him had he not died" is just a testament to how sucky Knowledge (XXG) is on dealing of people who have little pop-culture appeal.-- 52:
due to obvious consensus. Given the current visibility of articles related to the shooting, keeping this AfD open any longer isn't going to do any good.
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yes WP:Not a memorial... but this professor was notable BEFORE his death... his death in this manner just adds more publicity/attention to him.
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60 articles as an Associate is pretty good) the idea that you would delete him because he was shot down approaches offensive.
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While the article was probably created hastily because of his link to the incident, the fact is that he seems to qualify under
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Similar to other articles about people who were killed in this horrible event, he is only notable for his death.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
193:, Granata was "one of the top five biomechanics researchers in the country" according to his department head. 448:. I also would like to see this AFD closed early, noting the overwhelming support for keeping the article. 838: 835: 809: 787: 775: 759: 734: 719: 699: 687: 671: 639: 623: 611: 595: 578: 556: 553: 543: 531: 518: 502: 486: 468: 452: 449: 436: 424: 408: 389: 373: 357: 345: 333: 313: 301: 280: 268: 252: 238: 219: 197: 184: 175: 159:
Let me clarify. There wouldn't have been an article about him had he not died. It's unfortunate but true.
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and next time do some research out of respect for the recently deceased, this person obviously meets the
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is starting to become emotional and there is such a large consensus for keeping the article.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Just because there wasn't an article on him before, doesn't mean he doesn't qualify under
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To the contrary, Granata was one of the top researchers throughout the USA in his field.
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Notability was clearly established with a positive head start on reliable sources.
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Bullshit, take a look at the article prior to it being nominated.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Profiles of some of the victims - International Herald Tribune
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Allow some time to establish RS, he seems to meet WP;PROF --
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relevant is whether Granata fulfills the requirements of
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It would not be up for AfD if it was not just created.
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There's nothing on Granata in that article anymore.
39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 400:list of Academics and educators-related deletions 325:it would seem that he does meet the criteria for 856:). No further edits should be made to this page. 586:Satisfies the criteria for notability. Cheers, 432:I agree with T. Anthony and Stubbleboy above. 8: 398:: This debate has been included in the 862: 605:Knowledge (XXG):Notability (academics) 512:Knowledge (XXG):Notability (academics) 148:Knowledge (XXG):Notability (academics) 514:guidelines. Close this now, please. 150:: he passes at least the first two. 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 460:- It is starting to look a lot like 679:. The previous comment pointing to 570:His credentials appear to satisfy 24: 1: 821:and many others, and let it 746:and is notable. 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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
early close
Sandstein
23:05, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Kevin Granata
Kevin Granata
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
talk
16:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Knowledge (XXG):Notability (academics)
Nyttend
16:22, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
talk
16:28, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Gdo01
16:37, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Washington Post article
NawlinWiki
17:01, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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