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436:. Whereas millions of WP contributors watch programs such as Heroes or Lost, and the subsequent additions to the assorted character articles each week are rarely challenged, the same cannot be said for Japanese (or German, or Italian, or ....) subjects. The few of us who are actually familiar (for better or worse) with the everyday ramblings of the tarento know that the blatantly
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and the like. Yes, you can list his appearances: in some ways, "talking heads" on
Japanese TV are oddly similar to the bodies in Japanese "adult video". As I vaguely and perhaps wrongly recall, Derricott jabbered faster than and was less repellently unctious than Gilbert, and he had improbably
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That may be, but this article makes no claim to notability other than being a "personality". If someone familiar with the subject can add in some content demonstrating
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Extremely well known in Japan some years ago. Very visible "talent" who appeared as a guest on myriad television shows, and was on commercials. One of the "two Kents."
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