380:- there is a difference between most reserve leagues in the world and the MLS reserve league. In countries like England and Scotland, the reserve league consists of many professional players, yes, but each team also plays youth players who have no professional contract, and thus we can rightly exclude them from being considered as "fully professional leagues". However, there is no such thing as a "non-professional" player in the MLS, just like there is no such thing as a "non-professional" player in Major League Baseball, the NFL, NBA, NHL, WNBA, or any comparable league. Every single player on any roster of any MLS team has a professional contract, and since the MLS reserve league consists of only MLS teams (as anyone who can comprehend English could figure out), it must therefore be, by definition, a "fully professional league".
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