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436:- Obviously a biased vote on my part, as I've nommed this in the past, but my argument is well-reasoned. First, re: the news, the jezebel item is a throwaway reference on a blog, and the reference has nothing to do with the main story (as the writer clearly states). The Memphis Flyer coverage is also a throwaway reference in a book review for a book about cheerleading. I would therefore say that the coverage is trivial (and certainly 637:—in fact, I'm inclined to think, for various reasons, including certain of those offered by Spectral, that Yamaoka is properly a subject and is, in view of repeated and non-narrow coverage in secondary sources, notable—but I'd not be opposed to a retitling , consistent with our occasional practice of addressing BLP1E concerns about articles that reference incidents of unquestionable notability by retitling those articles). 592:
the deletion rationale requires too much hyperfocus and dissection to work. "She is only notable for..." is another way of saying "she is notable". We do not have any guideline that says people must be notable for more than one reason, or must be notable for their primary job or what-not. And to
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at this point. Article views for an article not about the subject stated are not indicative of notability of the subject. Most importantly, there has never been any followup with her by any news agency (she was pretty much forgotten after a week), and frankly, we don't really
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on the dangers of cheerleading (which was something requested on that article's talk, IIRC), I added the pertinent accident info in there, but the redir was rm'ed as "no consensus". That information and section is still in the article, with the citations used here.
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objections may be addressed by the retitling of the article and the adaptation of its text to a less biographical, more event-centric form (I'm not at all sure that I see retitling as necessary or that I think the article to be
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any biographical details about her aside from the fact that she went to SIU and fell off a pyramid during a basketball game. This should indicate something fundamentally problematic about the article.
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the notability depends upon the overall significance. It this case there was permanent national significance relating to the sport. Read section 3 of the article. Some more citations would help/.
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This article is about a person notable only for a single accident. The article should be deleted and what is salvageable should be merged into the cheerleading article.
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SpectralAgent has made no other edits except to this AFD, the first of which was made 4 minutes after registering the account, and has made no edits since.
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and other months for this year, this article has been viewed about 1000 times this year. Seems quite a bit of activity for someone supposedly not notable.
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Can you point out where she is still getting news coverage? Also, is the coverage about her or about her accident?
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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per SpectralAgent. She's still getting news coverage to this day, so I would say she's jumped over BLP1E.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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ask "Are the news stories about her or her accident" seems asinine. She passes notability.
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Note, this comment is this user's very first substantial edit to Knowledge.
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if one likes) DGG's analysis is, IMHO, quite right as regards the
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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which does not make the facts I stated any less valid.
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525:list of Living people-related deletion discussions 496:When I attempted to redirect this to a section in 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 659:). No further edits should be made to this page. 376:. Two years later, she is still being mentioned 374:Knowledge:Notability#Notability_is_not_temporary 199:Nick didn't say that your edit was less valid. 149:This is the fifth nomination now, not second. 8: 216:That's the implication. Else, why say it? 523:: This debate has been included in the 85: 382:. BLP1E was covered in earlier AfDs. 7: 88:Articles for deletion/Kristi Yamaoka 83: 24: 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1: 635:styled wrongly as a biography 64:itself can stand on its own. 151:(AfD moved to proper title) 676: 642:02:43, 29 April 2008 (UTC) 613:02:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC) 585:00:35, 28 April 2008 (UTC) 566:18:45, 27 April 2008 (UTC) 540:16:04, 27 April 2008 (UTC) 511:05:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC) 485:02:38, 25 April 2008 (UTC) 460:18:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC) 429:03:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC) 412:23:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC) 392:23:15, 23 April 2008 (UTC) 365:22:57, 23 April 2008 (UTC) 338:18:38, 24 April 2008 (UTC) 316:01:17, 24 April 2008 (UTC) 295:23:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC) 275:22:55, 23 April 2008 (UTC) 244:05:21, 25 April 2008 (UTC) 226:22:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC) 211:22:51, 23 April 2008 (UTC) 193:22:46, 23 April 2008 (UTC) 177:22:43, 23 April 2008 (UTC) 161:22:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC) 140:21:54, 23 April 2008 (UTC) 71:14:34, 29 April 2008 (UTC) 67:Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs 652:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 260:Seems to be a case of 82:AfDs for this article: 440:), and has been for 611: 542: 538: 528: 335: 292: 272: 228: 208: 200: 195: 179: 667: 654: 603: 602: 599: 534: 529: 519: 361: 358: 353: 333: 331: 330:Ten Pound Hammer 313: 308: 290: 288: 287:Ten Pound Hammer 270: 268: 267:Ten Pound Hammer 215: 206: 204: 203:Ten Pound Hammer 198: 182: 166: 137: 132: 68: 44:The result was 34: 675: 674: 670: 669: 668: 666: 665: 664: 663: 657:deletion review 650: 628:concerns. Any 597: 594: 359: 356: 351: 329: 311: 306: 286: 266: 202: 135: 130: 126: 124: 116: 80: 66: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 673: 671: 662: 661: 645: 644: 615: 587: 568: 543: 516: 515: 514: 513: 488: 487: 462: 431: 414: 394: 367: 340: 334:and his otters 321: 320: 319: 318: 299: 298: 291:and his otters 278: 271:and his otters 253: 252: 251: 250: 249: 248: 247: 246: 229: 207:and his otters 125: 123: 122: 117: 112: 110: 105: 100: 95: 90: 84: 81: 79: 77:Kristi Yamaoka 74: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 672: 660: 658: 653: 647: 646: 643: 640: 636: 631: 627: 623: 619: 616: 614: 610: 606: 601: 600: 591: 588: 586: 582: 578: 577: 572: 569: 567: 563: 559: 555: 551: 547: 544: 541: 537: 533: 526: 522: 518: 517: 512: 508: 504: 499: 495: 492: 491: 490: 489: 486: 482: 478: 474: 470: 466: 463: 461: 457: 453: 448: 443: 439: 438:not about her 435: 432: 430: 426: 422: 418: 415: 413: 409: 405: 404:SpectralAgent 401: 398: 395: 393: 389: 385: 384:SpectralAgent 381: 378: 375: 371: 368: 366: 363: 362: 354: 347: 344: 341: 339: 332: 326: 323: 322: 317: 314: 309: 303: 302: 301: 300: 297: 296: 289: 283: 279: 277: 276: 269: 263: 259: 255: 254: 245: 241: 237: 233: 230: 227: 223: 219: 218:SpectralAgent 214: 213: 212: 205: 197: 196: 194: 190: 186: 185:SpectralAgent 181: 180: 178: 174: 170: 165: 164: 163: 162: 158: 154: 153:SpectralAgent 150: 146: 142: 141: 138: 133: 121: 118: 115: 111: 109: 106: 104: 101: 99: 96: 94: 91: 89: 86: 78: 75: 73: 72: 69: 63: 59: 55: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 651: 648: 621: 617: 595: 589: 574: 570: 545: 520: 498:Cheerleading 493: 464: 446: 441: 437: 433: 416: 396: 369: 349: 342: 324: 281: 280: 257: 256: 231: 148: 144: 143: 127: 61: 53: 49: 46:no consensus 45: 43: 31: 28: 558:KleenupKrew 556:violation. 473:WP:NOT#NEWS 399:: Based on 343:Weak delete 258:Weak delete 609:count/logs 554:WP:NOTNEWS 58:WP:NOTNEWS 48:: suggest 56:; as per 626:NOT#NEWS 550:WP:BLP1E 494:Comment: 469:WP:BLP1E 346:WP:BLP1E 262:WP:BLP1E 62:incident 503:MSJapan 452:MSJapan 325:Neutral 236:MSJapan 54:cleanup 622:rename 546:Delete 532:Hiding 465:Delete 434:Delete 421:Xsmith 50:rename 630:BLP1E 598:Jerry 477:Quale 442:years 232:Note: 16:< 618:Keep 605:talk 590:Keep 581:talk 571:Keep 562:talk 552:and 521:Note 507:talk 481:talk 471:and 456:talk 447:know 425:talk 417:Keep 408:talk 397:Note 388:talk 370:Note 312:Mate 282:Keep 240:talk 222:talk 189:talk 173:talk 169:Nick 157:talk 145:Keep 136:Mate 52:and 639:Joe 576:DGG 527:. 467:. 336:• 307:Ani 293:• 273:• 209:• 131:Ani 607:¤ 583:) 564:) 509:) 483:) 458:) 427:) 410:) 390:) 379:, 372:: 360:55 352:21 348:. 242:) 224:) 191:) 175:) 159:) 620:( 579:( 560:( 536:T 530:— 505:( 479:( 454:( 423:( 406:( 386:( 357:6 238:( 220:( 187:( 171:( 155:(

Index

Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
WP:NOTNEWS
Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs
14:34, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Kristi Yamaoka
Articles for deletion/Kristi Yamaoka
Articles for deletion/Kristi Yamaoka (2nd nomination)
Articles for deletion/Kristi Yamaoka (6th nomination)
Articles for deletion/Kristi Yamaoka (fifth nomination)
Articles for deletion/Kristi Yamaoka (fourth nomination)
Articles for deletion/Kristi Yamaoka (second nomination)
Articles for deletion/Kristi Yamaoka (third nomination)
Ani
Mate
21:54, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
SpectralAgent
talk
22:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Nick
talk
22:43, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
SpectralAgent
talk
22:46, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Ten Pound Hammer
22:51, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
SpectralAgent
talk
22:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

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