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though, that attest to the software's significance. I've never heard of this piece of software before, and I don't use photo software, so what source can you point me to that will reassure me that this this particular photo software stands out from the many others that have existed to the point where we can write a good article about it? The gold standard here is in-depth reviews. Tutorials, blog posts, and directory entries can all exist for non-notable software, so pointing out that they exist here doesn't help us in understanding what notability exists.
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Everything do discriminate somehow. And basically everything discriminates more then CNET. Basically, only software with no downloads and known malware can't make to CNET. So CNET is practically indiscriminate. And again, it offers downloads of software it reviews, which means it is not independent.
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by now. Reliability isn't a binary characteristic: the less (potentially) controversial the claim, the weaker the source is allowed to be. CNet is perfectly reliable in establishing that the software exists, but it doesn't take much to get CNet to host your software. I'm not seeing any sources,
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Of course CNET's editors' reviews are reliable sources. Still, they host a lot of software downloads, and their reviews are written to promote software they host, thus promoting services. The problem here is not with their bias, but with the fact that they host indiscriminate collection of software
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I agree with Ritchie333. The article has remained at stub status since creation. It has had a template / tag on it for two years. The article is not being maintained and services no purpose. I gently disagree about "notable" - this is the only free desktop photo gallery software listed on the
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The NPOV tag was set in July 2012 because "the referenced cnet article also reported problems with the installer, which were not referenced in the article". In July 2013, an edit was made to the article to include this issue but no reply was provided and NPOV tag remains there. Also an internet
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I'm not sure I agree with that assessment, because although CNET distributes any software under the sun, some random person can't just make up an editor review, so it comes with good standing. I wouldn't expect a non-independent source to say "The program doesn't come with much in the way of
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it says "Notability is the property of being worthy of notice, having fame, or being considered to be of a high degree of interest, significance, or distinction." I would say HTTPhotos is worthy of notice, especially when it is the only freeware desktop application in
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mentioning the tool. There are some tutorials written by people from different countries (see article references). There is a significant usage of this tool (see google query) allowing people to make an independent photo gallery for free. If I check at
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beyond a c-net review". We are still discussing whether or not CNET is a reliable source (I believe it is because of initial CNET acceptance to publish and additional CNET review). I've pointed the following press sources:
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reference for, let's say, Picasa. Picasa is for sure a very well known application since Google acquisition but if you look at the wikipedia references on Picasa and you ignore all the references from
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published on CNET. I also understand your concern on the fact that CNET also distributes the software but they would not distribute it if they believe the software will bring no attention.
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Coverage can be found on the web about Picasa, I was only surprised not to see any significant wikipedia references attached to the Picasa article. Two weights, two measures.
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search with "httphotos" keyword shows many websites built with this tool which in my opinion is enough to make this tool notable. Here are some independent reviews:
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A source like CNET contains a publisher description but also an Editor (CNET staff) review. Could you please tell how such a review is Self Publishing?
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The CNET source is okay, sorry, I assumed since I'd mentioned it at the top of the AfD I wasn't including it in my assessment.
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reads "The software is discussed in reliable sources as significant in its particular field." That's not the case here.
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Chapter 32 (Free web publishing software) from "Digital Photography for Next to Nothing" written by John Lewell
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It is very inaccurate summary. All of the sources that were presented are either too short to demonstrate
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CNET do discriminate, please refer CNET policy. I also imagine it would be difficult to get an
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http://www.com-magazin.de/news/software/httphotos-3.0-erstellt-dynamische-galerien-220196.html
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The initial complaint was: "Non notable piece of software, with no detailed coverage in
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beyond a c-net review. This must have been one of the first articles I passed through
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use, regardless the fact that editor's reviews from CNET are absolutely OK for
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Not sure what you're asking for. The applicable notability criterion at
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about 1,650,000 web pages have been built using the freeware HTTPhotos
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https://www.google.com/search?q=%22httphotos+create+photo+gallery%22
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OK: it distributes this software, so it is nowhere close to being
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documentation". For me it falls down on not being particularly
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If we say the CNET editor's review is "not being particularly
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http://download.cnet.com/HTTPhotos/3000-13455_4-75126139.html
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coverage, merely being a brief product description.
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