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I'll ask you the same question as I did Dravecky and Jacona, seeing as they're declining to answer: what sources (and why) do you claim are the multiple reliable, independent, third-party sources with an established reputation for fact checking and accuracy that provide "significant coverage" to the
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claim explicitly apply to this subject, and what sources (and why) do you claim are the multiple reliable, independent, third-party sources with an established reputation for fact checking and accuracy that provide "significant coverage" to the subject that the GNG requires to establish notability?
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Why this subject be any less notable than it was when brought to AfD by the same nominator with the same basic reasoning just 10 months ago, when it survived AfD? Notability is not temporary. Is nominating the same article for deletion repeatedly respectful treatment of the editors at AfD and the
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the situation that NOPAGE was designed to cover, given that Allen's only apparent claim to prominence is having won this state pageant, there's no significant sourced biographical information beyond the standard date/parents/high school/hometown info available about damn near every living person in
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is a blog post on the website of the local radio station, the sum total of which is "Tomorrow (Saturday) is the Miss Wyoming send off event in Lander. Holly Allen of Lander will be traveling to Las Vegas soon for the Miss U.S.A. pageant and she is raising money for her trip. Tomorrow afternoon from
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AfDs are revisited all the time, and not just due to procedural errors. Indeed, you're right: notability is not temporary, which is why it's important to establish it in the first place. I'll ask you the same questions I asked Dravecky: what guidelines establishing presumptive notability do you
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Yes. It's a stub in need of expansion. That's never a rationale for deletion. Also, these competitions are not a "contest for looking good" any more than the acting Oscars are won by "talking pretty in a costume" or the Pulitzer by "typing real nice". Your misunderstanding of
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4pm to 8pm. The Museum of the American West will be hosting a County Cook out dinner for $ 10. Proceeds will help Allen get to Las Vegas for the competition." Even if it wasn't obviously the station's local events blog, this is a news blip explicitly debarred by
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pageant? It'd also be nice if you could link to any reliable, independent third-party sources that provide the subject the "significant coverage" the GNG requires, none of the sources in the article being anything of the sort:
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Would you mind linking to the guideline explicitly according notability to state pageant winners, especially given that there's no presumptive notability granted to the state pageant winners of the far more notable
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Another issue with the article is that the creator is evidently the subject (Hallen6) who only edited this article and the related one for the pageant title, including introducing copyvio twice. In a previous AfD
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sentences), if we had any idea what "county10.com" was (the site lacks any info on that whatsoever, and it seems to be no longer updated), or its qualifications to being a reliable, substantive source.
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My objections are unchanged from February, except in so far as that there were two citations that were fleeting bulletpoint reports explicitly debarred by
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which assumes notablity. Some people object to these bios being turned into redirects so we use AfD. Reread the basis of the nomination.
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is again from county10.com, and is in fact about the subject's sister (the subject herself is mentioned only in a single sentence).
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article on the Miss USA pageant winner where Allen is mentioned in the photo caption in one of the group pictures.
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noted that the three personal shots in the article were all submitted by Hallen6, and one of them --
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on the Google Newspapers feature, and the only substantive hit on Google News is a picture-studded
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All we really know about her is she won a state level contest for looking good. Classic case for
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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is another fleeting press release, this one from the Lander Chamber of Commerce.
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the United States, and lo and behold, there's an appropriate redirect target.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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We are not debating notability, we are talking about following
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Beyond that, there's bupkis. "Holly Allen" + Wyoming turns up
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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this information is best presented in context on a list at
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subject that the GNG requires to establish notability?
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as her notability is for winning the state title and
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447:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 372:comes the closest to substantive content (a whole 81:Articles for deletion/Holly Allen (2nd nomination) 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 699:). No further edits should be made to this page. 202: 8: 518:Note: This debate has been included in the 500:list of Wyoming-related deletion discussions 498:Note: This debate has been included in the 520:list of People-related deletion discussions 517: 497: 73: 606:. Essentially nothing to wrote about. 7: 72: 24: 76:Articles for deletion/Holly Allen 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 306:Did you look at the article? 1: 676:04:03, 22 December 2015 (UTC) 656:01:16, 22 December 2015 (UTC) 635:11:42, 18 December 2015 (UTC) 616:03:18, 17 December 2015 (UTC) 591:03:01, 17 December 2015 (UTC) 575:01:51, 17 December 2015 (UTC) 553:01:47, 17 December 2015 (UTC) 532:01:40, 17 December 2015 (UTC) 512:01:40, 17 December 2015 (UTC) 490:00:04, 17 December 2015 (UTC) 472:). 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