483:. I do not know whether this man meets Knowledge's notability requirements. If the article is moved to user-space, User:Proudbolsahye can develop it over time. If at some later date he/she feels the article demonstrates the notability of the subject, then he/she can move it back to article-space (and if it is still not evidently notable, it can be deleted).--
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Toddy1, that sounds like a good idea. I'll work on it and re-nominate it. I plan on reducing the article to bare minimum like I mentioned at the TP and see if I can get some local newspapers that the Lafian family has in their archives to thereby confirm his feats.
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for the kind of sourcing which is recomended for articles concerning historical subjects. Local newspapers should generally not be considered a satisfactory source - even some major newspapers lack expertise in accurately presenting historical stories.
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