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289:, of the two users opining for retention, one turned out to be a months-long breaching experiment voting keep for articles that should be deleted and delete for articles that should be kept, and the other is beyond any reasonable doubt one of the actors/directors/whatever involved with these movies. It's entirely possible for micro-budget films to become notable and attract third-party attention, but Honey Glaze is no 363:
This is part of a wide ranging campaign by JzG and others to remove certain articles from Knowledge regardless of whether they meet the notability standard or not! Keep as per Dennycolt and Badlydrawnjeff and the fact that this and other movies by Legge are notable in the field of cult cinema.
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criterion that articles should be the primary focus of multiple non-trivial sources. This has not, apparently, been the focus of multiple non-trivial coverage in reliable secondary sources. IMDB, for example, is user-submitted, most indie film articles are uploaded by the makers.
281:. Of the external links provided in the article, only the ones to IMDB and to B Independent contain any information whatsoever, and both of those sites rely on user-submitted content. They're not by any stretch of the imagination 403: 250:
Did you look at the links? How do they assert notablity? In your link, the review refers to the director as "Michael who?" and talks about how horrible it is. So how do you get your work reviewed by that website?
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How is the movie or even the director notable? You mentioned his "statue within the community" when both the links supplied above refer to him as "Michael who" (anyone can submit their movie) and his bio mentions
306:. Low-budget indie films mean low-budget indie reviews. Denny's links show the importance for the genre, and Legge's statue within the community are enough to make any of his works notable anyway. -- 460:
the subject's notability, we'd be in the process of deleting 1000 articles on Simpsons episodes, wouldn't we? Or is every single Simpsons episode notable?) I really want to vote
448:- The review Arbustoo refers to above that says "Michael who?" nevertheless is a review of the movie. I was under the impression that a third-party article doesn't have to 115: 376:
This is the 12th day the above user has been active. He also votes on afd's related to this "director". Importantly, he has given NO reason for WHY it is notable.
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Spammy article on a zero-budget film from the Michael Legge walled garden, kept by VfD back in the days before we had clarified the
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a third-party review proves notability. Please clarify this for me. (If WP articles needed external articles to
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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to prove notability. Not a website where anyone can mail a copy of their movie to or get it distributed.
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b-independent.com is "is committed to helping the Ultra-independent distribute his film free of charge"
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Mail it to them (For what its worth, a South African address-- so its international postage)
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I've never seen a request like this since reading/working on WP--is this standard? -
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And for what its worth, they look like they're not even from the same country:
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Michael Legge (filmmaker) (third nomination)
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
328: 105: 101: 97: 335:as long as they pay $ 30-40.00. Hardly impressive. 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 486:). No further edits should be made to this page. 195:None of them have anything to do with Legge or 149:, seems notable enough for multiple sources: 8: 402:director, and massive redirects up for afd: 327:As for his single award. According to its 7: 452:notability, but the fact that there 424:. I'll look for a review somewhere. 421:. Also, Legge has a box at VH1.com 24: 173:Independence of those sources? 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1: 349:if there are more reviews. 503: 469:17:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC) 441:17:10, 17 April 2007 (UTC) 429:17:03, 17 April 2007 (UTC) 411:23:58, 15 April 2007 (UTC) 395:23:35, 15 April 2007 (UTC) 381:23:35, 15 April 2007 (UTC) 369:14:11, 13 April 2007 (UTC) 356:05:29, 11 April 2007 (UTC) 340:04:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC) 316:23:13, 10 April 2007 (UTC) 298:21:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC) 285:. Regarding the previous 268:04:45, 16 April 2007 (UTC) 244:17:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC) 220:17:03, 11 April 2007 (UTC) 209:17:02, 11 April 2007 (UTC) 187:17:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC) 165:21:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC) 141:21:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC) 58:17:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC) 479:Please do not modify it. 390:no proof of importance. 32:Please do not modify it. 466:AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 426:AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 158:. Fine for a stub. - 333:submit their films 314: 207: 185: 139: 494: 481: 310: 283:reliable sources 241: 217: 203: 179: 162: 133: 113: 95: 34: 502: 501: 497: 496: 495: 493: 492: 491: 490: 484:deletion review 477: 239: 215: 160: 86: 70: 67: 44:The result was 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 500: 498: 489: 488: 472: 471: 443: 431: 413: 397: 385: 384: 383: 358: 347:Very weak keep 344: 343: 342: 308:badlydrawnjeff 300: 275: 274: 273: 272: 271: 270: 248: 247: 246: 223: 222: 211: 201:badlydrawnjeff 190: 189: 168: 167: 120: 119: 66: 61: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 499: 487: 485: 480: 474: 473: 470: 467: 463: 459: 455: 451: 447: 444: 442: 439: 435: 432: 430: 427: 423: 420: 417: 414: 412: 409: 405: 401: 398: 396: 393: 389: 386: 382: 379: 375: 372: 371: 370: 367: 362: 359: 357: 354: 353: 348: 345: 341: 338: 334: 330: 326: 322: 319: 318: 317: 313: 309: 305: 301: 299: 296: 292: 288: 284: 280: 277: 276: 269: 266: 262: 258: 254: 249: 245: 242: 236: 233: 230: 227: 226: 225: 224: 221: 218: 212: 210: 206: 202: 198: 194: 193: 192: 191: 188: 183: 178: 177: 172: 171: 170: 169: 166: 163: 157: 154: 151: 148: 145: 144: 143: 142: 137: 132: 131: 125: 117: 111: 107: 103: 99: 94: 90: 85: 81: 77: 73: 69: 68: 65: 62: 60: 59: 55: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 478: 475: 461: 457: 453: 449: 445: 438:Minderbinder 433: 415: 399: 387: 373: 360: 350: 346: 320: 303: 278: 255:. The other 196: 174: 146: 128: 121: 46:No consensus 45: 43: 31: 28: 197:Honey Glaze 72:Honey Glaze 64:Honey Glaze 446:no comment 259:. We need 408:Arbustoo 392:Arbustoo 378:Arbustoo 366:Billions 337:Arbustoo 324:NOTHING. 302:A tough 265:Arbustoo 116:View log 416:comment 400:Comment 374:Comment 329:website 321:Comment 295:Cryptic 89:protect 84:history 50:Luigi30 458:assert 450:assert 434:Delete 388:Delete 291:Primer 279:Delete 93:delete 261:WP:RS 240:Denny 216:Denny 182:Help! 161:Denny 136:Help! 110:views 102:watch 98:links 16:< 462:keep 361:Keep 312:talk 304:keep 205:talk 199:. -- 147:Keep 124:WP:N 106:logs 80:talk 76:edit 54:Taλk 48:. -- 352:DGG 293:. — 287:vfd 176:Guy 130:Guy 114:– ( 454:is 406:. 234:, 231:, 155:, 152:, 108:| 104:| 100:| 96:| 91:| 87:| 82:| 78:| 56:) 184:) 180:( 138:) 134:( 118:) 112:) 74:( 52:(

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Luigi30
Taλk
17:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Honey Glaze
Honey Glaze
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
WP:N
Guy
Help!
21:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC)



Denny
21:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Guy
Help!
17:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
badlydrawnjeff

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