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669:: Both sources Pakistan Telegraph and Lahore World) are clearly questionable sources with no editorial oversight so why not avoid them as they surely has a poor reputation for fact checking and accuracy that WP:RS requires. I don't know how to prove that both are unreliable sources but being a local, I never heard about them nor they're being used on Knowledge as references apart from a couple of bio pages. --
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