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240:(XXG). It turns the encyclopedia into a popularity contest. I disagree with this on principle. And as a lifelong supporter of regionalism, I do not think that artists should have to flock to the major cities of the world to have their contributions validated. If Moore's visual art was not worthwhile it would not be in private and public collections. If his sonic art was not valid then he would not be sought after as a collaboration partner. But I agree the entry needs to be tied to other artists. That's easy to do... except that all those other artists could have the same objections levelled at their entries! Where is the incentive to write half a dozen other entries knowing they all could be deleted? 259:
many fields. If we started allowing entries for everyone with some potential in some area, Knowledge (XXG) would no longer be an encyclopedia. Keep in mind that it might not be the right time for an article on Harry Moore. Maybe in a year or more there will be an objective basis for notability. Again, none of this has anything to do with the quality of his work. I really want you to continue writing articles. One idea is to write articles on the artistic movements themselves. There is likely to be much more source material and you can point to many artists. In time, individual artists within a movement may gain sufficient notability to justify their own articles.--
214:- I sympathise with the author who points out visual artists are under-represented on Knowledge (XXG). However, this article currently stands as more of a CV for Moore, cited to primary sources with a clear vested interest in promoting him on their websites. There is what appears to be a magazine review of Moore's joint exhibition in Cobh (where he is also gallery director) but no indication of the source. We need proof Moore and/or his work are 239:
artist working in an experimental or fringe field to have acknowledged third-party articles extant. It is quite simply the fact that no press exists that covers these activities. So this policy in essence says that only artists working in populist forms and genres should be represented in Knowledge
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I very much sympathize with the points you make, but objectively, how are editors to judge when a relatively unrecognized artist is doing profound work without secondary sources? Notability forces us to leave out, for now, people who will one day become recognized as innovators. This is true for
386:, but unfortunately it's only an exhibit announcement, not a review. It is not true that sources on contemporary artists don't exist (newspaper reviews of art exhibits are common enough, and there are any number of more specialized magazines that can be used as sources) and it is 161: 337: 235:- Disclosure: I am the primary author of the article and have met and worked with Moore, since we are fellow sound artists. I understand the objections to this entry. However, it is unrealistic to expect 114: 155: 317: 297: 277: 121: 87: 82: 91: 360:. I am One hits the nail on the head. The chief requirement of Knowledge (XXG) is that there should be sufficient independent reliable sources. 74: 176: 143: 17: 408: 137: 465: 40: 133: 446: 428: 399: 369: 349: 329: 309: 289: 268: 264: 249: 227: 205: 201: 56: 183: 395: 78: 70: 62: 461: 260: 197: 36: 149: 442: 424: 365: 416: 391: 169: 215: 193: 245: 345: 325: 305: 285: 29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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per Sionk, unfortunately this artist does not meet the notability guidelines at this time. --
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web-pages and it appears there's not much more out there. There are similar concerns for
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and sources in the article support notability only in Cork, Ireland.
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