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with some overdetailed extra stuff. Just imagine that the current list of HP characters mentioned every scene in which every character appears. I think that the second best thing we can do with this HP music article is to transform it into a disambiguation page linking only to the soundtracks and no more, or merge it into a section in the HP film series article and only give links to the soundtracks. --
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We are not talking about separate articles on songs, but one article on the music collectively. If each soundtrack is notable, then by that logic the soundtracks combine are extra notable! I don't see any point in outright deleting this article. As the paperless encyclopedia, we can afford to
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It augments the substantiation and assertion of notability and shows how deletion is not logical, because we're talking about music that doesn't just appear in purchaseable soundtracks, but that has also been made into purchaseable sheet music. Now as to secondary sources, reviews of the
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I would not oppose making this page some kind of navigation page to the other articles, but we can do that by boldly editing over this article. We don't need to delete to do that and if we merge anything than we can't delete it per the GFDL.
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The first hit is sheet music and the fourth hit degrades into something about paganism. Right. Thanks for this; please add to my deletion argument "no substantiation, or even assertion, of notability." 'preciate the help, Roi!
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You clealry have not read my userspace, which has stated that I am a Harry Potter fan for over a year now. However, this does not cloud my judgement on which wiki articles should be deleted or not, unlike some others.
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