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Windows at version X, or any other minor details that can be sourced, but a full article is absolutely unnecessary given what is currently and can be found from Google. --
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Yes, it should be about the history of the product. That is not demonstrated short of saying "introduced in (Windows version)". Furthermore, video games are generally expected to have some type of reception section albeit for something like this is may be more about its legacy. For
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The focus of this article (IMHO) should not be about the game's rules, although it's worth mentioning. The focus of the article should be about the component called Hearts in the OS. It's a piece of software, just like any other component, and it's development history may differ from other games,
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