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say anything about receiving a notable award or honor, or being nominated for one several times. They have not "created a product", they modified someone elses product for fun. I'm sorry, but adding different races into a game just isn't notable to me. Arguing this is pointless - you can claim these
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I also disagree with it not passing A7, there are sources on the website claiming the figures relevance. The person has received a notable award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times as outlined on the profile page. The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of
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Um... yes, there is. It is a random, unsourced, unprofessional website on a site that anyone can make a page on - weebly is a free page website. ANYONE could have made that page. You could have made it right now, and claim it's a source. There is no way to tell. Just because it says "Highelf77" on
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Highelf77 by a non-notable site. Generally, if the website in question isn't known for giving awards, it probably isn't a notable
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That is not a notable award. That is some guy with a weebly.com page saying he thinks
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1522:. Red link, that is the other site that gave the award. Non-notable, it does not have an article. Nice try, but you'll need to do better than start getting mad and saying "lol no sources" like you are. I don't need sources to back up my
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Does this "issue" really matter? Why not just keep the page instead of waste time arguing over if it should be deleted or not, there are more pages out there that are subject to vandalism or self promotion, just focus on them.
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This article should not be deleted, the figure is semi-notable. The above users disagree with you. Making mods is not a form of creativity. Yes the article needs fixing up but that doesn't mean it should be
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If we simply skipped to keep like you suggest, that wouldn't be a consensus. The issue here isn't that it needs citation and references, the issue is that he doesn't have anything notable
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Perhaps that's true, but there are some sources on him such as his website and profile on a mod site. They are not entirely reliable but they pass. His website isn't run by him.
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