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310:, it would be helpful if they could do so. Multiple articles in major news sources over a series of several years suggest this isn't an ordinary thesis. It is standard for U.S. presidents and presidential candidates to have their personal lives covered in detail on Knowledge (XXG), which of course is only possible because the wider media do likewise. 354:
While the paper is not notable as an academic work, it is notable because it has been extensively written about. There are adequate sources to write it in a neutral manner. A lot of Hillary-haters have unfairly used her connection with Alinsky to smear her, which has added to the notability of the
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An article like this, while it has sufficient coverage in reliable sources, really needs to be completely neutral or it can become a coatrack in no time. A quick glance at the article seems to show that it gives a lot of weight to views criticizing the withholding of the thesis, without noting that
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Unnotable paper. There have been calls to delete or merge this article before on its talk page. It's already summarized in the Hillary Clinton article as: "Rodham wrote her senior thesis, a critique of the tactics of radical community organizer Saul Alinsky, under Professor Schechter. (Years later,
280:- The interest in the thesis seems to stem solely from when it was unavailable, so I think its mention in the Hillary Clinton article is sufficient enough. The paper itself doesn't appear notable, even if its article is well sourced and written. For reference, here is the previous and unsuccessful 434:
I do not think it gives undue weight. The fact that not releasing it was criticized is important to the story and no reason for keeping the thesis sealed has been provided. It should be pointed out in the article however that the suspicions of the anti-Hillary commentators that it showed her
372:. An interesting subject that a substantial number of people would like to read about, judging by page views in excess of a thousand a day. The fact that it was once unavailable, and is now available, does not stem the notability deriving from its period of unavailability. 449:
I don't disagree and I wasn't arguing for deletion. I do think the article would be bettered by noting the partisan nature of many of the critics, and, as noted above, that the thesis did not turn to be a strong defense of Alinsky's ideas.
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while she was first lady, access to her thesis was restricted at the request of the White House and it became the subject of some speculation. The thesis was later released.)"
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it will just be recreated in three weeks seems like bureaucracy for bureaucracy's sake. I'd suggest closing or withdrawing this AFD, and renominating in in a month. ‑
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article on a controversial topic can become a coatrack for partisan views; the solution is careful policing of the article content.
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notable in its own right as a political work written by a US President. Deleting something when (at the time of writing) there's a
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paper and makes this article useful for readers since it provides a fair account of what she actually wrote.
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That sounds like an editing issue to be fixed within the article, not an argument for or against deletion.
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support of Alinsky turned out to be false. But as BD2412 says, any weight issues can be fixed.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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in her biography article and this feels like a coatrack or POV fork in the making.
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Not notable either intrinsically or in Sec'y Clinton's life. Discussion would be
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many of the views expressed are from partisan sources (Brock, Noonan, Olson).
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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so I think deleting or redirecting this is better than a merge.
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left arguments on the talkpage to keep the article in 2014
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