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I know, of course, that expert opinion is not allowed in articles, but I'm not sure of its standing in this kind of discussion. I've been sailing for forty years, including a circumnavigation, and have, thirty years ago, built and sold boats for a living. I have no connection whatsoever with Hylas or
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As his User page comments, certainly Knowledge (XXG) would be better off with more and better articles on yachts. While we cannot be Consumer Reports, we should certainly provide background. This is a reasonable start on this brand.
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I have had concerns over the images as well. It seems like promotional shots not taken by myself are not fair use. I would like to see the fair use images thumbnailed into the models but do not know the right wiki formatting.
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Article is spammy in tone, but that can be corrected via editing rather than deletion. Some sources are listed which are independent and reliable in nature, indicating that the subject has coverage as needed by
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Wow, this is really cool. I was hoping for some collaboration. Especially thanks to Toddst1. I will make some notes on the discussion page. How about a criticism section to help neutralize the article out?
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shows 3 Hylas boats out of 20 boats listed for sale -- more than I might expect, but there is no indication that he is a dealer or has any special relationship with Hylas.
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that he is a yacht broker, so yes, he has a financial interest in the industry, but not an obvious particular interest in this brand. The comment above
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is unfair. He disclosed his interest in the industry on his user page -- certainly many users are not so forthright. A glance at his company's
390: 369:. It might be better if the images were thumbnailed into the list of Models, something that I would be willing to do if the vote is for 17: 331:, and while that is not conclusive evidence of notability, it's certainly suggestive. There are other manufacturers bluelinked on 88: 83: 92: 175: 75: 142: 423: 36: 366: 422:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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while doing page patrol. This article, by the same man, is a similar case of a notable smaller manufacturer.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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I have some concerns over the use of images in the article. Knowledge (XXG) is
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Spam by a Fort Lauderdale dealer specializing in, guess what, Hylas Yachts!
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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I note that there are currently 49 Hylas boats for sale on
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Mr. Jordan other than having seen the boats occasionally.
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