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although I do see discussion of the term on g-scholar, it's not a lot for a term put forward in a 2004 book, and, a term that, according to comments above, was used in even earlier articles. More to the point, even where it is discussed, it is the context of discussion of the originator's book.
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Varshney mirrors Brash's focus on institutional production of Hindu-Muslim violence in India. I have looked at sources, and what I see is a number of authors, mostly on India, discussing Brash's model. What I do not see is much use or adoption of this term by scholars as a model to analyze
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applies because the gauge to judge whether a neologism is working it that it is being picked up by other scholars and applied to new contexts. I see no indication that this term is being used outside of the narrow context in which it was put forward by the term's
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The sources provided by Notecardforfree demonstrate that the subject "institutionalized riot systems" has been analyzed by independent reliable sources. It has been discussed directly and in detail, and the sources are
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Easy to find discussions of this theory on G-Scholar. Still considered new and all still mention the originator, but it's getting attention. Article needs to add some of the discussion (pro and con).
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argument for deletion is well thought out, but the issue I have with it is that simply because the term hasn't been used outside of India (or rarely), doesn't warrant non-inclusion.
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Is there going to be any voting, if this article will be kept or not. May I know the reason why this article is nominated for deletion
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are sufficient. That being said, there is also agreement here that the article needs serious editorial work. --
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identifies as one of the prerequisites for a standalone article about relatively new terms (see, e.g.,
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conflicts and riots elsewhere, or even analysis that goes beyond repeating Brash's description.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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The Production of Hindu-Muslim Violence in Contemporary India
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The Production of Hindu-Muslim Violence in Contemporary India
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to the article about the book which introduced the theory:
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