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456:- There are sources dating back to the 1920s. Books, the New York Times, the old Chicago Daily Tribune, The Daily Telegram, Detroit Free Press, etc. I sometimes wonder if people just toss aside Knowledge (XXG)’s definition of Notable for the dictionary definition / personal opinion of “notable.” This definitely passes the Notability test which is about significant coverage in independent sources. It’s been covered extensively. --
401:. The series has been played 95 times, dates back to 1898, and is historically significant and notable. Conference realignment has resulted in the series being played less frequently since 2011, but that doesn't alter the historical nature of the series. As discussed in the article, the series has had direct implications on the national championship on multiple occasions, including major upsets of teams ranked #1/#2 in 1939 (
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