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300:. Note that reviews don't count towards notability if they are just recycled press releases (which, sadly, many are these days). Such reviews are not independant of the subject. To judge whether this is the case people need to read the reviews, which are currently not discussed or even mentioned anywhere in the article. The article would be much improved by the addition of a "Reception" section discussing any independant reviews. 320:
electronics reviews, but as that editor stated, people need to read the reviews to determine whether they are independent or just "recycled press releases". I have actually read the reviews, and the majority are clearly independent since they criticize the device in ways that no paid press release
368:- The reviews now listed in the article are not recycled press releases. For example, CNET has an Editor review, ad well as user reviews. User reviews don't establish notability, but an editor review does, and the CNET review for the iRevier Story is just that -- an editor review. -- 216:
This e-book reader running Google software has been reviewed by reliable electronics publications such as PC Magazine, Ars Technica, PC World, Cnet, Engadget, Laptop Magazine and Gizmodo. Clearly, these reviews are sufficient to establish notability.
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writer ever would. As HairyWombat suggested, I have added a "Reception" section to the article with brief quotes from five independent reviews demonstrating notability and neutral coverage of this device.
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about this issue. I'm actually far more interested in the global issue of notability of computer hardware and software than whether
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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