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225:. The fact that the current content has some issues is not a reason to delete the article. It's a reason to improve the article. It is also a reason not to feature it on the main page in a DYK nomination. But the article should not be deleted. As for the assertion that McCormick is not notable, that seems contrary to the fact that a search for John McCormick and the Chicago Tribune on google pulls 310:. I agree with User:Cbl62, and in fact, I just added more content (and sources) in a good-faith effort to improve this article. McCormick is plenty notable and was notable well before the Blagojevich scandal. The issue with people whose careers largely predate the World Wide Web is that much of their most notable work is not easily searchable online. In my view, 314:
applies more to people balancing hot dogs on their noses, not longtime correspondents for major newsweekly magazines (who then write editorials for one of the nation's most influential newspapers). I agree with Cbl62 that notability is clear, and that the article could stand to be improved even more
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Sorry, but a plain google search like the one you cited is not a convincing proof of notability. If you can find sufficient specific examples of significant coverage of McCormick (rather than articles by him) by independent sources predating the Blagojevich scandal, I would certainly change my mind.
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Not notable. Fairly minor employee of the Chicago Tribune, whose website is the only source of information about him. The largest section is about the alleged effort of the governor to get him fired. Since this had no direct effect on him it should be at most a trivia item, if he was notable enough
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case, where the only notability seems to come from McCormick being a figure in the Rod Blaojevich scandal. There is a great deal of coverage at the moment but it all appears to be only in the context of the Blagojevich scandal. An alldates googlenews search (which, as I understand it excludes the
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and expand. The BLP guideline was never intended to be used when the person in question was part of a major news story of general public interest, more than tabloid value, and more than temporary significance. It contradicts the general idea of Knowledge being an
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He also won the American Society of Newspaper Editors 2002 Distinguished Writing Award for Editorial Writing, for his editorials on the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the Afghanistan War, the "Renaissance of Black Chicago", and plans for a new football stadium in
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but all of them appear to be false positives. So there does not appear to be significant coverage of him pre-Blagojevich scandal. Perhaps could be redirected to
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Thanks guys. The article is now much improved. I think the section on the controversy should be reduced even more. I withdraw the nomination.
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I think you have an unduly narrow view of notability. Did you look at the article I cited above?
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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No, sorry, I missed it, my bad. Changing to neutral for the moment.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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for the moment in view of the source produced by Cbl62.
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
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Dravecky
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08:29, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
John P. McCormick
John P. McCormick
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Steve Dufour
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02:07, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
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Rod Blagojevich federal fraud cases
Nsk92
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02:44, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Nsk92
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03:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

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