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578:; no need to keep the article (merge / redirect) if it happens that another person mentioned is notable. If anyone would like to create such an article / add content elsewhere, they could easily move the content to their user space and do it from there, or request an admin do it for them after the fact. Since this ended up at AfD, let's just deal with this here. 313:
The John Folds Ruthven content is the only thing there that is sourced in a non primary source. The rest looks a bit ORish since it is using available databases or primary sources. If his son's status is notable enough for an article, maybe rename this article to John Folds Ruthven and rewrite the
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coverage about him, as is required by our notability criteria. The article was PRODded in 2013 shortly after creation, but the PROD was declined by the creator. —
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a non-notable engineer. If his son was notable, a seperate article should be created, this article should not be renamed/merged.
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If the son is notable then we should have an article about the son, not include him in the article about his father.
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This is genealogy information, not a biographical encyclopedia article. No plausible claim of notability is made.
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It seems to have already been merged, which it did not appear when I first read this discussion. His son,
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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There was never a merge. The content concerning John Folds Ruthven was part of
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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steamindex page on the Great North of Scotland Railway
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The thing is, this page includes a section on his son
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list of Transportation-related deletion discussions
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