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has been extensively covered in international, national and local news. (The article about her lists 27 references). The same does not appear to be the case for Didier. If the case is as notable as you say, there would be no trouble with providing sufficient references. "People still talk about it"
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This is not a true crime archive, There are hundreds of thousands of murders a year of otherwise non-notable individuals, and an encyclopedia is not the place to preserve the information about each one. The murder did no apparently result in any new "Megan's Law" or "Amber Alert" and the article
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Nobody is arguing here that "it didn't take place". If there are "many, many articles" in the newspapers, as you say, then you can add references to them to the WP article. Then there may be something to talk about. However, in any event, I would want to see some significant coverage of the case
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but I disagree with merging with "Murder of ...". Someone looking for information on this 3-decade-old murder will not type that in but will type in the subject's name. Therefore this should remain the article of record and incorporate any different material from the Murder of ... article. Keep
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While indeed sad and tragic, the victim nor his murder are not notable by Knowledge standards. The assertion that the murder "changed the local community" is a personal observation that cannot be proved. Murders of single victims are generally not considered to be notable by Knowledge standards
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There are, unfortunately, thousands of murders each year of which this is another sad example. There is nothing I can find, and indeed nothing asserted in the article, that might suggest that this incident is particularly notable. I also note that someone has today created the article
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because, unfortunately, they are so numerous. Exceptions are made when such crimes are highly publicized and attract coverage in national media. I'm afraid this young man's killing doesn't quite clear the bar. -
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Visit the Rockford Public Library and see the many, many articles in the newspaper. Just because the murder took place 20 years before the internet does not mean it didn't take place.
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Again, it's sad, but it is not a crime which is set apart from many many others like it. I have also nominated the "Murder of" article for deletion
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there was no coverage outside Rockford, a story that made a significant impact on 340k people (as the reliable sources attest) isn't notable?--
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pending the addition of promised sources with no prejudice against renomination in 6-12 months if improvements aren't made.
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with identical content to this one. Both that and this article should both be deleted at the conclusion of this AFD.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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to "Murder of Joseph Didier. The murder is much more signficant and has stood the test of time than
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a personal observation. It states so explicitly in the reliable sources provided by the article. --
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and let that AfD settle the issue on notability. The redirect is the preferred outcome anyway.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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case anyway even if the crime turned out to be notable). There are 16 hits in googlenews
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A very sad story, but this murder victim doesn't appear to be very notable.
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Oopos! I voted twice, sorry. I thought this AfD looked familiar. -
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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The assertion that the murder "changed the local community" is
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should be deleted for reasons better stated at the essay
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metropolitan area had 339,178 inhabitants. Assuming
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Sher
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22:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Joseph Didier
Joseph Didier
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
Ani
Mate
09:17, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Murder of Joseph Didier
WP:ONEEVENT
brew
crewer
(yada, yada)
15:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Realkyhick
Talk to me
17:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

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