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582:- References 1 and 2 both discuss a 1997 book co-authored by the subject, but not the subject and hence do not demonstrate notability of the subject. Similarly reference 3 discusses a 1994 book from the same co-authors. References 4 - 6 discuss some assertions made in, again, the 1997 book. The 1997 book might enjoy some limited notability in esoteric philosophy circles, but nothing suggests that the subject does.-- 490: 424:
and, now, the Knowledge (XXG) article. (Furthermore, the source does not seem to use the verb "create" but "defend".) If these four requirements were significant, I would expect the first one to at least appear in more than one source. Just because the person stated or wrote something does not mean that this belongs to Knowledge (XXG), per
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I'm still not convinced. The four requirements you introduced with the words "Hoffman has created four requirements for a Aristotelean theory..." seem to originate from a single source. Google returns two hits for the first criterion "substancehood must be an ontological category", the cited web page
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reads: "3. The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the subject (...) of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." The two book reviews alone are not sufficient, the
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You make a compelling point. Perhaps the creator and/or person who added the sources explain themselves and why selected those particular sources. Furthermore, they should be given the chance to prove the subjects notability which is seemingly apparent to them; I suggest pinging them or something.
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As mentioned above, I couldn't find significant coverage about the theory either. Only one occurrence written by Hoffman himself in a work edited by Tuomas E. Tahko. Setting aside all the copies/forks of the Knowledge (XXG) article, can you elaborate on the coverage you found?
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In regard to "defend", I changed the wording to "has supported". After looking at it more carefully, I noticed that the source first says "attempts to lay down" and then says "defends". I left it as "has supported" but I'm not sure if it's a big deal anyway.
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I'm not really arguing for the notability of the individual requirements, but if you google "Hoffman Rosenkrantz theory" I think you'll find some decently in-depth discussion of Hoffman's work. I'll try to add some of those sources later tonight.
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I'm almost certain that it is. It's easy to locate even more sources than what appears in the article. I can't imagine that all of these sources would discuss Hoffman, the Hoffman-Rosenkrantz theory or the pair's works if they were insignificant.
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The article seems to have an okay number of sources linked. I don't know the bulk of them so I can't say if they're reliable, but if they are, I think seven sources are acceptable at best for a stud. Cheers,
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I added the book reviews. Multiple full-length reviews in indepedent sources would represent a common path to notability for authors and academics ("significant critical attention" under
670:, notability of the subject has not been established. Arguably, any encyclopedic relevance is limited to the two co-authors' contributions to notably interesting topics such as 261: 118: 159: 281: 364:). I agree that there are some trivial sources about relatives and bridge, but I don't think they affect the notability established by the reviews. 200:. In particular, the impact his work has had on his scholarly discipline (i.e., philosophy and theology) does not seem to be significant, so far. 125: 489:
I googled "Hoffman Rosenkrantz theory" and found only one occurrence... written by Hoffman himself in a work edited by Tuomas E. Tahko
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is not met. I don't think that being paraphrased or referred to in a few books or papers is sufficient. --
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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and do not think the book Substance: Its Nature and Existence. helps the subject meet
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relate to relatives of Joshua Hoffman, and the last one is a list of bridge players. --
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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I appreciate the consideration. The 1997 book is held in 900 libraries per
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The "Hoffman Rosenkrantz theory" does not seem to be well-known, and
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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does not appear to be a significant or well-known work. To me,
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work must also be "a significant or well-known work". Is
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