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to create a decent article about him in order to provide a reasonable basis for assessing his notability. Prior to that, this guy's name had been repeatedly added (as a "local notable") to articles for his home town, which are on my watchlist. Based on what little I knew about him, I thought he might qualify as notable. At this time, the article is in pretty good shape, so I think it provides a good basis for evaluation. --
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