849:(spoken in Dalek voice) for reasons amply explained above. Moreover, considering the degree to which his hagiographer has attended to the niceties of what the "sources" actually say, I doubt what he says about the copyright status of the photographs that are used -- which could be recycled in some article in some other language about the Jain lads. So if I were more familiar with the workings of Wikimedia Commons, I'd direct my flamethrower at the files there too. --
514:'Honourable' is a standard title for certain politicians and lesser nobility in the UK. It's always abbreviated to 'Hon'. I must confess to reading this new-to-me version as 'horrible' at first. As to handshakes and such, it's quite possible to be a very minor speaker at something, or to simply BS one's way in, and get photographed. It is also marvellous what they do with Photoshop these days. (They, not me. I've got it and simply can't understand it.)
794:) 10:55, 22 October 2010 (UTC) ::::I'd better just add that the RSA is a totally legit organisation, and not some fancy titles-for-cash outfit. They used to run a commercial examination programme, but that's been merged with OCR now. The fees for fellowship are for funding projects, not for expensive cars, etc, as can be the case with a lot of titles and initials 'awarded' by numerous scam and fake outfits.
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Has anyone looked at the photo? It appears to be passport photo size and possibly scanned from somewhere. Why is he in uniform? "Mr Jain started as a Civil
Engineer, employee in Indian Military Engineering Services" - can anyone identify the uniform and ribbons? He only was in this service about two
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means unpaid, or paid a nominal sum for legal reasons (something like 1 Re per month). In the case of a university degree, it means no course has been attended, but the degree is awarded based on outside actions. This is an honorary position - i.e. unpaid. (I used to be a lexicographer....)
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Science; the Royal Society for the encouragement of Arts, Manufactures & Commerce is for what it says. I don't doubt that he is entitled to use FRSA. I could be if I joined them and paid my fee. So could you. FRS is an important thing. (So is the unrelated RA - from the
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Another load of unreliable refs. Mind you, one or two at a quick (and weary...) glance might show the existence of someone of this name. (There is also a judge by the name, but he was born long before 1940.) Will look again when I wake up...
474:? I kept seeing "horrible" and then noticed that it was "hon'ble" or something. Is this incipient dyslexia? If these photos aren't photoshoplifted and are indeed of him, might this fellow have some minor notability for celeb handshaking? --
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We see that, and with this honour we would expect some announcement on the part of Civil
Defence. Can you find somewhere where Civil Defence or the press announced this? It would go a long way towards establishing notability.
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