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throughout the film festival circuit and accepted by the public in general for the "notability" of a filmmakers accomplishments. News and magazine articles about filmmakers are generally considered good publicity, criticism and look really good on DVD covers or Amazon product pages, but filmmakers generally look to peers in their field as do academic researchers in order to establish "notability".
310:. Far better for an article of this length to have three or four rock solid references than 28 weak ones. None of these references are from reliable, independent sources giving significant coverage to this person. Every single one is mediocre. This is a beginning filmmaker who may possibly be notable some day, but not yet.
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like many other film festivals and festivals awards is a process of peer review, "(i.e. only directors vote for directors, writers for writers, actors for actors, etc.). In all major categories" so what I said about establishing "notability" in film is factually correct. This practice is common
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is clearly a derivative work of that film. The producer confirms the relationship and the origin of the work that can only be attributed to three people; the producer never entered the
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