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True, the NYT is in some ways also a local paper. However, note that
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non notable, i read over the revised article and an ad campaign doesnt scream notability to me. If you ever read the NYTimes before its simply massive and you can even find an article on your local (if in NY) ice cream palor, which doesnt mean it notable. After the 9/11 rush anything containing the
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the fact that an article exists in another language is not a reason in itself to keep or delete. Someone may have innocently translated the original article into another language. The articles in another language may be subject to the same manipulations, prejudices, and flaws as the first article,
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He appears to be a crackpot who I believe is borderline notable because of the outlandish things he's saying (and the ton of money he's throwing around) and how he's going about drawing attention to his theories. News about him is picked up all around Europe and the US.
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Certainly a stronger article for it, but I'm going to need some time to look it over before I can consider changing my vote. I'll try to re-evaluate before the vote closes. Thanks for the positive attitude towards revision
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People shouldn’t always trust info that comes from NY Times. They quite often have a liberal bias side to them. One example: See this
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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