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141:, I don't see any evidence this is actually a real word. There is a subscription citation provided in the last AfD, but it doesn't speak about the origin of this word at all. As far as I can tell from a cursory google search 10 pages in, this is a case of something made up at school one day. I haven't seen a single result yet which could be used as a reliable source. There is a claim its in several dictionaries, but I certainly don't see it at dictionary.com. The only other argument I really see on the previous afd is 569:(a much less common one). The article seems to think that the phenomena started at about the time when western Japanophilia was, I believe, in sharp decline (prompted by Japanese militarism). It's illustrated with the photo of a sole putative Japanophile: Hearn, who so loved Japan that he (i) never bothered to learn the language and (ii) kept complaining about the indignities of his life down in Kumamoto. His own article ignores this and instead describes him as 203:
A lot of those summaries seem to have the author throwing the word in to quotes which makes me believe there is some doubt as to its wide acceptance, though there are some references going back before 1900. As long as legitimacy and proper sourcing for the text of this article can be provided I have
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If it was made up in school one day, it was a day a long time ago. In addition to the citation in the Webster's Unabridged from the previous AfD, it's in my copy of the OED cited as dating from the early 20th century. Needs cleanup and sources, but it a real and notable term. The perjorative claim
377:- Common word in common usage, not just in niche circles. Used by media, news and many other sources. Listed in mainstream dictionaries, encyclopaedias and other sources. Source the article a bit better, but obviously a real used word. 357:
It does, but its completely unsourced. At least now with a citation showing it exists in a dictionary, that demonstrates its a real word, but without any other citations it would have to be reduced to only a dictionary
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I'll withdraw the nomination but with the understanding that its in desperate need of citation. The only current provided citation doesn't elevate it beyond being a dictionary definition.--
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See the Britannica entry for Kumamoto, and the OED entry for Japano-, for examples of use. The Knowledge (XXG) article goes well beyond a dictionary definition.
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looks somewhat promising. The term itself is discussed, not just mentioned in passing, and someone could also find the original being referred to in the text.
426: 457: 585:?) Grrr! (Yeah yeah, I should rewrite it all. But sorry, I've got my hands full with other articles, not to mention "real life".) -- 17: 223:- Although the term does (or did) exist, it still need references. Just like how we can find articles from respectable sources on 104: 99: 108: 142: 91: 609: 36: 502:
The other changes by Jonathan de Boyne Pollard appears to be good work, especially since he cited multiple sources.--
453: 231:, I think there are references out there. Until references are found, this article is too "iffy" to be on WP. Maybe 329: 608:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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the man who offered the West some of its first glimpses into pre-industrial and Meiji Era Japan
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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I also reverted an undiscussed unilateral move by Jonathan de Boyne Pollard from
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edit by an anonymous person had removed all sources back in November.--
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admiring comment that preceded him. (Just as one example, how about
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
400:. Not only found in dictionaries, either; used by the BBC, 145:
which isn't really a valid reason for keeping an article.
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
JForget
02:59, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Japanophile
Articles for deletion/Japanophile
Articles for deletion/Japanophile (2)
Japanophile
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
WP:NOT
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS
Crossmr
talk
02:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Crossmr
talk
05:01, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Google Books
Google News
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