476:. I would not be opposed to merging this and the academy into a more general article on the very notable subject of architecture in the Star Wars universe. I also think they are just fine as stand-alone subjects that have been covered substantially in reliable independent sources. Editors are welcome to make improvements, add citations, trim extraneous or unencyclopedic content, but I encourage all editors to think creatively about how to include subjects of interest like these instead of rushing to delete them. We are a pageless encyclopedia, so including notable elements of fiction does not distract or detract from coverage of non-fictional subjects. They can all exist peacefully and in harmony with one another and the force.
563:, but I don't think a stand-alone does any harm and there are probably sources out there. What kind of classes are done there? Is it an educational model for the future? How does it differ from our schools? What is it based on? How does it compare to Star Trek and other sci-fi futuristic depictions of academies? People have written on these subjects, whether it's available easily online I'm not so sure, but I think we should work to improve it rather than rush to delete it because it's not a good article yet. To do otherwise would be to side with the dark side.
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615:. This is a very notable part of an extremely notable franchise. The temple is covered in great detail in a number of the books and plays an important role in the movies. It is the scene of a pivotal part of one of the movies. Yes, I am a SW fan, so no need to point out that I'm part of the SW project.
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If you think there's something "we" should do, your most pragmatic course of action is to just start doing it. Asking or expecting others to agree with you doesn't tend to work. Therefore, why spend your energy trying to convince people who are very, very unlikely to be convinced? Our time on Earth
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