Knowledge

:Articles for deletion/Jeff Monaghan - Knowledge

Source 📝

219:. Well... newspaper sources are typically considered to be reliable sources that can help show notability and to be honest, there shouldn't really be anything in here that isn't sourced by one thing or another. We also don't delete something because it's old news. If someone or something achieves notability per Knowledge guidelines, that notability does not go away over time. (Unless the standards tighten up and they don't meet the new guidelines, that is.) I cleaned the article up a little and took out a few things, but I'm more worried that this didn't get enough coverage to count as notable. I'll see what else I can find or if this can be mentioned somewhere else on Knowledge with this name as a redirect. It's big enough that it got quite a bit of coverage, but not enough to where it clearly isn't just a case of 688:. Subject is notable for only one event: being arrested for a crime that he was never charged or convicted of. I don't believe the "person of interest" and his punk rock band are at all notable, and the "Awards" section doesn't have any citations, and the single award doesn't seem notable either. If the crime (the leaking of government plans) was notable (doubtful), it should have an article, but the article should be about the crime - not the person who is only notable for being arrested and released the same day. 267:- The claim of notability is in the article and supported by citations. Regardless of the citations being in print or online, they are still citations. The notion that the article should be deleted based on the citations being from newspapers is rediculous. Google the name followed by "arrest" and there are plenty of online sources. Just a note to Fedgetrashmore - it is always good to check out sources to see if they exist prior to making a Rfd. -- 52:. There isn't strong agreement on whether the sources in this article establish notability, both sides of the argument have valid points and neither side is overwhelming. Also, the strange nature of this AfD (sockpuppet nominator, botched relist) makes it more difficult to close one way or another. For this reason, there is 290:. If you read any of those news links, th arrest had nothing to do with activism, it was only after the arrest that the media got wind of those associations. Moreover, the activism was hardly national news... it relates to a small local bookstore. How can this be considered as notoriety? Delete. -- 245:
not making the person notable; however, from the brief research I did I see that he is an outspoken activist. The arrest would be an event surrounding his activism and his activism is what I believe would make him notable (not that every activist deserves a Knowledge, but the most notable ones that
768:
This is a close call.  Of course the event passes WP:GNG, but is it a forgettable WP:NOT routine event or is this a part of Canadian history?  There is a problem here in not knowing the person's full name, but it would be nice if the next time this is nominated the editor has more than ten edits
764:
The man arrested for allegedly leaking the Conservative government's environmental plan was a temporary employee...a drummer in a punk band that sings an angry screed against the Prime Minister and the 'rise of the
533:
Note To Administrator - I do not care about the article as I only came here to vote on AfD; however, nominator is a new user and there are 2 back to back delete votes from new users that were created back to back.
170: 334:- agree with the above. This seems to be a promotional page for a relatively unknown person. If a page was created for every activist who got arrested, we'd end up with a lot of useless clutter. Delete. -- 718:. The citations are reliable for the article. Unlike the US, in Canada we have no laws provincially (as far as I know) or federally protecting "whistle blowers". Further, the fact that the 642:
on the merits. Clearly not enough coverage to support the biography of a living person. Subject is only notable for one event in his life. The event itself meets no section of WP:EVENT.
489: 164: 125: 553: 511: 466: 392: 556:, based on what I see as evidence of sock-puppetry with Archie888, Fedgetrashmore, and 99.234.8.152. Anyone may comment there if they are interested. 130: 310: 201:
The page contains only information gathered from newspaper sites. The content is over 5yrs old; it reads simply as an old newspaper story.
659:
Something went wrong with the relist of this discussion, it is not currently listed in a deletion log. I am adding it to today's log.
443: 429: 98: 93: 451: 377: 102: 373: 354: 17: 85: 185: 152: 465:
The above comment has been struck out, as the user has been determined to be the same person as the nominator: see
391:
The above comment has been struck out, as the user has been determined to be the same person as the nominator: see
825: 774: 40: 306: 206: 146: 806: 778: 731: 702: 672: 651: 630: 601: 570: 543: 525: 503: 478: 474: 447: 437: 433: 417:- There is no good reason to keep the article. It's about a minor figure involved in a perfect example of 404: 400: 358: 324: 276: 255: 232: 210: 142: 67: 748: 821: 228: 89: 36: 770: 539: 425: 342: 298: 272: 251: 192: 62: 365: 346: 291: 697: 565: 369: 350: 302: 202: 178: 81: 73: 685: 665: 597: 418: 287: 242: 220: 335: 727: 647: 521: 499: 470: 396: 29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
820:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
35:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
627: 613: 582: 321: 224: 158: 715: 681: 535: 268: 247: 57: 53: 796: 691: 559: 711: 660: 593: 723: 643: 517: 495: 119: 791: 624: 318: 246:
get arrested for what he did probably do). Just a thought....I'm moving on. --
616:
to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
585:
to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
286:- this article is precisely what should be avoided when we talk about 814:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
719: 623:
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, v/r -
115: 111: 107: 177: 592:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 828:). No further edits should be made to this page. 490:list of Environment-related deletion discussions 722:was investigating him in 2008 is significant. 552:Note: I created a sockpuppet investigation at 554:Knowledge:Sockpuppet investigations/Archie888 467:Knowledge:Sockpuppet investigations/Archie888 393:Knowledge:Sockpuppet investigations/Archie888 191: 8: 510:Note: This debate has been included in the 488:Note: This debate has been included in the 512:list of People-related deletion discussions 509: 487: 54:no prejudice against speedy renomination 7: 24: 317:User has already !voted--v/r - 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1: 747:Allan Woods (Ottawa Bureau). 749:"The anarchist and the leak" 313:) 13:29, 26 June 2012 (UTC) 845: 807:13:58, 18 July 2012 (UTC) 779:03:30, 16 July 2012 (UTC) 732:03:55, 14 July 2012 (UTC) 703:20:07, 10 July 2012 (UTC) 673:14:37, 10 July 2012 (UTC) 631:18:22, 28 June 2012 (UTC) 602:18:22, 28 June 2012 (UTC) 571:21:02, 10 July 2012 (UTC) 544:15:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC) 526:15:55, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 504:15:54, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 479:13:24, 16 July 2012 (UTC) 438:15:22, 26 June 2012 (UTC) 405:13:24, 16 July 2012 (UTC) 359:15:03, 26 June 2012 (UTC) 325:18:24, 28 June 2012 (UTC) 277:14:06, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 256:14:06, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 233:12:08, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 211:10:59, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 68:16:46, 18 July 2012 (UTC) 817:Please do not modify it. 652:14:18, 9 July 2012 (UTC) 32:Please do not modify it. 452:few or no other edits 378:few or no other edits 739:Here is another ref: 454:outside this topic. 380:outside this topic. 48:The result was 670: 633: 604: 528: 515: 506: 493: 455: 428:comment added by 381: 362: 345:comment added by 327: 315: 301:comment added by 241:I agree with the 836: 819: 803: 767: 761: 760: 701: 694: 666: 663: 622: 618: 591: 587: 569: 562: 516: 494: 441: 440: 363: 361: 339: 316: 314: 295: 196: 195: 181: 133: 123: 105: 65: 60: 34: 844: 843: 839: 838: 837: 835: 834: 833: 832: 826:deletion review 815: 797: 771:Unscintillating 758: 756: 746: 716:User:Morning277 695: 689: 669: 661: 611: 580: 563: 557: 423: 340: 296: 138: 129: 96: 80: 77: 63: 58: 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 842: 840: 831: 830: 810: 809: 784: 783: 782: 781: 741: 740: 734: 714:. Agree with 705: 675: 667: 657:Note to closer 654: 636: 635: 634: 620: 619: 608: 607: 606: 605: 589: 588: 577: 576: 575: 574: 573: 547: 546: 530: 529: 507: 484: 483: 482: 481: 457: 456: 410: 409: 408: 407: 383: 382: 328: 303:Fedgetrashmore 292:Fedgetrashmore 279: 261: 260: 259: 258: 236: 235: 203:Fedgetrashmore 199: 198: 135: 76: 71: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 841: 829: 827: 823: 818: 812: 811: 808: 805: 804: 802: 801: 794:and sourced. 793: 789: 786: 785: 780: 776: 772: 766: 754: 750: 745: 744: 743: 742: 738: 735: 733: 729: 725: 721: 717: 713: 709: 706: 704: 699: 693: 687: 683: 679: 676: 674: 671: 664: 658: 655: 653: 649: 645: 641: 638: 637: 632: 629: 626: 621: 617: 615: 610: 609: 603: 599: 595: 590: 586: 584: 579: 578: 572: 567: 561: 555: 551: 550: 549: 548: 545: 541: 537: 532: 531: 527: 523: 519: 513: 508: 505: 501: 497: 491: 486: 485: 480: 476: 472: 468: 464: 461: 460: 459: 458: 453: 449: 445: 439: 435: 431: 427: 422: 420: 416: 412: 411: 406: 402: 398: 394: 390: 387: 386: 385: 384: 379: 375: 371: 367: 360: 356: 352: 348: 344: 338: 337: 333: 329: 326: 323: 320: 312: 308: 304: 300: 293: 289: 285: 284: 280: 278: 274: 270: 266: 263: 262: 257: 253: 249: 244: 240: 239: 238: 237: 234: 230: 226: 222: 218: 215: 214: 213: 212: 208: 204: 194: 190: 187: 184: 180: 176: 172: 169: 166: 163: 160: 157: 154: 151: 148: 144: 141: 140:Find sources: 136: 132: 127: 121: 117: 113: 109: 104: 100: 95: 91: 87: 83: 82:Jeff Monaghan 79: 78: 75: 74:Jeff Monaghan 72: 70: 69: 66: 61: 55: 51: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 816: 813: 799: 798: 795: 787: 763: 757:. Retrieved 752: 736: 707: 677: 656: 639: 612: 581: 471:JamesBWatson 462: 444:99.234.8.152 430:99.234.8.152 424:— Preceding 414: 413: 397:JamesBWatson 388: 341:— Preceding 331: 330: 297:— Preceding 282: 281: 264: 216: 200: 188: 182: 174: 167: 161: 155: 149: 139: 50:no consensus 49: 47: 31: 28: 686:WP:BLPCRIME 450:) has made 419:WP:ONEEVENT 376:) has made 288:WP:ONEEVENT 243:WP:ONEEVENT 225:Tokyogirl79 221:WP:ONEEVENT 165:free images 64:| prattle _ 59:-Scottywong 759:2012-07-15 536:Morning277 269:Morning277 248:Morning277 822:talk page 800:Gtstricky 755:. Toronto 692:Adjwilley 560:Adjwilley 518:• Gene93k 496:• Gene93k 366:Archie888 347:Archie888 336:Archie888 37:talk page 824:or in a 790:- meets 769:total. 753:The Star 682:WP:CRIME 614:Relisted 594:Davewild 583:Relisted 426:unsigned 374:contribs 355:contribs 343:unsigned 311:contribs 299:unsigned 126:View log 39:or in a 765:right.' 724:Argolin 644:BusterD 217:Comment 171:WP refs 159:scholar 99:protect 94:history 712:WP:GNG 684:, and 678:Delete 640:Delete 415:Delete 332:Delete 283:Delete 143:Google 103:delete 662:Monty 294:]] 186:JSTOR 147:books 131:Stats 120:views 112:watch 108:links 16:< 792:wp:n 788:Keep 775:talk 737:Keep 728:talk 720:RCMP 710:per 708:Keep 698:talk 680:per 648:talk 598:talk 566:talk 540:talk 522:talk 500:talk 475:talk 463:Note 448:talk 434:talk 401:talk 389:Note 370:talk 351:talk 307:talk 273:talk 265:Keep 252:talk 229:talk 207:talk 179:FENS 153:news 116:logs 90:talk 86:edit 668:845 193:TWL 128:• 124:– ( 777:) 762:. 751:. 730:) 650:) 600:) 542:) 534:-- 524:) 514:. 502:) 492:. 477:) 469:. 442:— 436:) 421:. 403:) 395:. 372:• 364:— 357:) 353:• 309:• 275:) 254:) 231:) 209:) 173:) 118:| 114:| 110:| 106:| 101:| 97:| 92:| 88:| 56:. 773:( 726:( 700:) 696:( 690:~ 646:( 628:P 625:T 596:( 568:) 564:( 558:~ 538:( 520:( 498:( 473:( 446:( 432:( 399:( 368:( 349:( 322:P 319:T 305:( 271:( 250:( 227:( 223:. 205:( 197:) 189:· 183:· 175:· 168:· 162:· 156:· 150:· 145:( 137:( 134:) 122:) 84:(

Index

Knowledge:Articles for deletion
talk page
deletion review
no prejudice against speedy renomination
-Scottywong
| prattle _
16:46, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Jeff Monaghan
Jeff Monaghan
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
Stats
Google
books
news
scholar
free images
WP refs
FENS
JSTOR
TWL
Fedgetrashmore

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.