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135:, the article gives a misleading impression that the subject has been notable for the study of Mesoamerican cultures, when all available evidence suggests the opposite. Subject is a self-described independent scholar and author of a self-published book, written on a topic completely unrelated to their field of qualification. Said book promotes theory at the fringes of archaeological research, and despite implications in the article neither the author nor his book have been cited, reviewed or even noticed by archaeologists active in the field. Other than one or two polite book reviews in LDS publications, cannot find evidence that the author or his book have made much of an impact to the development of Book of Mormon apologetics, either. In short, taking away from the article the inaccurate claims to any expertise or significant contributions to archaeological research, there's nothing really left to show why or how he's notable for inclusion in wikipedia. 396:(search on "Author=(Ainsworth J*)" and sorting on sub-categories related to topics mentioned in the article AND search on "Author=(Ainsworth JL)") returned no hits – evidently none of the subject's work appears in the refereed literature. Although the layout and content of the article clearly argue for inclusion on the basis of research contributions, e.g. "...involved in countless archaeological expeditions throughout Mexico, attended numerous scholarly conferences...", there are none to be found. Also note that the book described in the article appears to be 316:
his theories. This is the reason why I believe this article really needs to remain is so novice people in this field (like myself) can find a balanced factual article discussing alternative views of archeology as not to be academically misled. If this subject is too hot for Knowledge (XXG) to handle
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Well, the problem is that an author or an artist can self-publish the greatest book in the world. But in order to be notable and to justify inclusion in an encyclopedia it has to generate wider interest. You need references to articles covering this author. The problem isn't that it's too hot, but
309:: Golly gee folks, I didn't expect such. . . passion when I crated this page. There is very little about Dr. Ainsworth's academic work on the web but positive reviews of his books and theories, but on Knowledge (XXG), all the professionals of Dr. Ainsworth's field have come out in force and 139:
he can be regarded as a notable figure in LDS circles, then there'd need to be demonstration that he/his work are cited, quoted, discussed, etc by others. I haven't been able to find evidence for this; in archaeology/Mesoamericanist circles he's a definite non-starter.
231:. Google Scholar search as author returned 1 hit, a 1977 publication, and no citations. Google News search retuned zero hits. ASC search returned zero hits. There is a review of his 2000 book on the site of a center for religious studies at BYU 317:
objectively, then there will be gaps(black holes) that people cannot find reliable information about archeology, which kind of negates one of the main strengths of Knowledge (XXG) (in depth coverage of a field). Recently, I looked up the
234:, and it is not very positive on the scholarly value of the book, which may explain the lack of citations – a quote: β€œIt is unfortunate that Ainsworth pays so little attention to the work done by other LDS researchers.”-- 167: 52:
count, but only once -not twice. That said, there's overwhelming consensus that the subject is not yet notable. No objection to re-creation once he meets the guidelines. Am happy to userfy the content
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Eric Yurken, I did a regular Google search on "Jerry L. Ainsworth" and came up with several pages of results concerning his several books and his person. Google Scholar search returned 3 hits.
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No references. Reads like a resume. The article's author or authors need to read up on the proper methods of establishing notability and how to do encyclopedic writing.
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Eric Yurken summarizes the problem, fails WP:PROF & WP:BIO. Nom's concerns that the article is misleading puffery seem totally valid.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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and found that informative when professionals comment on others theories.Again I vote to keep this article
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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no reliable independent source to establish notability. Fails
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above. As far as I can tell, the subject fails both
438:list of Living people-related deletion discussions 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 649:). No further edits should be made to this page. 548:Actually, you are completely wrong on this one. 552:votes count, including the article's creator. 8: 145: 364:as per nom and above additions, especially 280:, per a detailed nom and the comments of 436:: This debate has been included in the 166:: This debate has been included in the 343:that it isn't hot enough. Good luck. 622:- There's no coverage of his work -- 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 131:Per reasons already outlined at its 566:I thought that they didn't. Sorry. 24: 251:: per the searches done by Eric. 502:has already voted keep above. 1: 632:02:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC) 605:02:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC) 61:23:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC) 588:06:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC) 562:06:05, 9 November 2008 (UTC) 543:05:49, 9 November 2008 (UTC) 512:05:41, 9 November 2008 (UTC) 488:05:13, 9 November 2008 (UTC) 471:09:28, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 453:05:00, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 428:04:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC) 410:16:07, 7 November 2008 (UTC) 385:06:35, 7 November 2008 (UTC) 353:06:20, 7 November 2008 (UTC) 331:05:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC) 302:02:28, 7 November 2008 (UTC) 273:01:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC) 244:01:38, 7 November 2008 (UTC) 224:01:36, 7 November 2008 (UTC) 203:01:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC) 183:00:54, 7 November 2008 (UTC) 157:00:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC) 461:per nom and Eric Yurken. -- 666: 642:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 392:. A careful search of 48:. Septagram's !vote 75:Jerry L. Ainsworth 67:Jerry L. Ainsworth 44:The result was 586: 545: 541: 514: 455: 441: 271: 185: 171: 155: 657: 644: 583: 578: 576: 573: 570: 538: 533: 531: 528: 525: 517: 494: 442: 432: 382: 377: 372: 319:Bosnian Pyramids 268: 263: 261: 258: 255: 172: 162: 149: 148: 147: 122: 116: 98: 58: 34: 665: 664: 660: 659: 658: 656: 655: 654: 653: 647:deletion review 640: 581: 574: 571: 568: 536: 529: 526: 523: 380: 375: 370: 345:ChildofMidnight 266: 259: 256: 253: 195:ChildofMidnight 144: 118: 89: 73: 70: 54: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 663: 661: 652: 651: 635: 634: 616: 615: 614: 613: 612: 611: 610: 609: 608: 607: 491: 490: 473: 456: 430: 413: 398:self-published 394:Web of Science 387: 358: 357: 356: 355: 334: 333: 304: 275: 246: 226: 205: 187: 186: 129: 128: 69: 64: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 662: 650: 648: 643: 637: 636: 633: 629: 625: 621: 618: 617: 606: 602: 598: 594: 591: 590: 589: 584: 577: 565: 564: 563: 559: 555: 551: 547: 546: 544: 539: 532: 520: 516: 515: 513: 509: 505: 501: 497: 493: 492: 489: 485: 481: 477: 474: 472: 468: 464: 460: 457: 454: 450: 446: 439: 435: 431: 429: 425: 421: 417: 414: 411: 407: 403: 399: 395: 391: 388: 386: 383: 378: 373: 367: 363: 360: 359: 354: 350: 346: 341: 338: 337: 336: 335: 332: 328: 324: 320: 315: 314:commented on 312: 308: 305: 303: 299: 295: 291: 287: 283: 279: 276: 274: 269: 262: 250: 247: 245: 241: 237: 233: 230: 227: 225: 221: 217: 213: 209: 206: 204: 200: 196: 192: 189: 188: 184: 180: 176: 169: 165: 161: 160: 159: 158: 154: 153: 143: 138: 134: 126: 121: 114: 110: 106: 102: 97: 93: 88: 84: 80: 76: 72: 71: 68: 65: 63: 62: 59: 57: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 641: 638: 619: 592: 549: 518: 495: 475: 458: 433: 415: 389: 361: 339: 313: 310: 306: 277: 248: 228: 207: 190: 163: 150: 136: 130: 55: 49: 45: 43: 31: 28: 550:Everybody's 366:Eric Yurken 311:incinerated 236:Eric Yurken 212:WP:ACADEMIC 402:Agricola44 500:Septagram 480:Septagram 445:β€’ Gene93k 420:Pete.Hurd 323:Septagram 133:talk page 381:andahalf 125:View log 593:Comment 340:Comment 286:WP:PROF 92:protect 87:history 620:Delete 463:Crusio 459:Delete 416:delete 390:Delete 362:Delete 290:WP:BIO 278:Delete 249:Delete 229:Delete 216:Boffob 208:Delete 191:Delete 175:John Z 120:delete 96:delete 46:delete 569:Schuy 554:Nsk92 524:Schuy 504:Nsk92 368:'s. ~ 294:Nsk92 254:Schuy 142:cjllw 123:) – ( 113:views 105:watch 101:links 56:StarM 16:< 628:talk 624:Whpq 601:talk 597:Whpq 582:talk 558:talk 537:talk 519:Note 508:talk 496:Note 484:talk 476:Keep 467:talk 449:talk 434:Note 424:talk 406:talk 349:talk 327:talk 307:Keep 298:talk 288:and 282:talk 267:talk 240:talk 220:talk 199:talk 179:talk 164:Note 152:TALK 109:logs 83:talk 79:edit 50:does 443:-- 440:. 371:Pip 214:.-- 170:. 630:) 603:) 560:) 510:) 498:: 486:) 469:) 451:) 426:) 408:) 351:) 329:) 300:) 292:. 242:) 222:) 201:) 181:) 137:If 111:| 107:| 103:| 99:| 94:| 90:| 85:| 81:| 626:( 599:( 585:) 579:( 575:1 572:m 556:( 540:) 534:( 530:1 527:m 506:( 482:( 465:( 447:( 422:( 412:. 404:( 376:2 347:( 325:( 296:( 270:) 264:( 260:1 257:m 238:( 218:( 197:( 177:( 173:β€” 146:ʘ 127:) 117:( 115:) 77:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
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StarM
23:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Jerry L. Ainsworth
Jerry L. Ainsworth
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cjllw
TALK
00:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
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John Z
talk
00:54, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
ChildofMidnight
talk
01:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
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