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521:. I have gone through more of the 50+ list and added sources where possible and dePRODed any that I felt had a reliable source for their existence. I was hoping to get time to supply further sources to attempt to establish notability. With so many articles to research this is not necessarily achievable in a short time-frame. The nominator has sent most of the dePRODed articles straight to AfD. I ask for time/assistance in actually searching for sources to support the articles' notability. 950:
I will run a search again for this album - I can't remember if I did a thorough search, as I might have stopped when I found the charting info. My opinion is that any national chart numbers are sufficient for notability (this is Nielsen SoundScan, not merely the magazine's,
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I hope you're not implying that I stated that they needed to be in the article. I merely stated that, at the time, only one reference that met RS was in existence, or at least that I was aware of. With the Sound Scan addition below, it might be enough now.
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clause at NALBUMS. Allmusic is a solid reliable source and allmusic used to be named as one of two preeminent websites for the criteria on music notability. Looked like a cleanup template issue for requiring more sources so I added them. Having
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the fact that the album charted is a reflection that it had significant sales in that category. #20 is better than never have entered the charts at all. That together with the independent verifiable reviews is enough to establish notability.
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album has charted or met some other criteria for inclusion. As NALBUMS states, "that an album is an officially released recording by a notable musician or ensemble is not by itself reason for a standalone article".
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Another RS review had been added, as the remix version content is now in this article, a review of that material by Jesus Freak Hideout lends further weight to overall article's notability.
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Muddying the waters doesn't help. The question isn't whether Hillsong (not plural) have a history of doing well and wither or not other albums have charted, it's whether
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If sales numbers were presented, it would be a different discussion. We should only be considering major charts. I say that for all albums, not only this one.
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meet notability. A staff review must review the album and provide a rating and that has not been done. There's nothing to salvage here.
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suggest that a song or single may be notable, though a standalone article should still satisfy the aforementioned criteria.
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So, to recap, there is one review, but the album charted, so it's somewhat notable. I think enough so for an article.--
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Looking at the chart, it did not make the top ten that week in the limited category "Praise & Worship" (
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Each chart reflects Christian and general market combined album sales for the week ending August 27, 2006.
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Improve? How? It's not a notable album! Please provide the sources that support its notability.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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for this album? It's nothing but a track listing an a pair of user ratings. This does
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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On 19 June 2014 the nominator PRODed some 50+ Hillsong-related articles see
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per charting info supplied by 3family6, and other RS describing the album.
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Multiple sources are needed to support notability. Only one present.
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article. There may very well be other sources out there as well.--
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credited as contributing to the album increases its notability
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the album has charted as per the sources provided by
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