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Knowledge (XXG) article. Stage magicians tend not to be the most publicity-shy folks out there, and I have my doubts that someone could successfully work in that field for 45 years as claimed and yet have no reliable sources for any of it. "The Amazing Mr. Diamond", supposedly his stage name
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