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306:) doesn't even have them having played a first-class match (I can find no other K de Silva - and if the first initial isn't correct then, given the surname, good luck finding anything specific...). We know a name and an initial and have a single scorecard to go on. That isn't "significant coverage" in the form that we need to have. I would not be adverse, as always, for the article to be recreated if a series of sources which could show that WP:N is met could be found. 454:– you work with the current guidelines until they have been changed and they currently state "either GNG or SNG" giving equal weight to both. Secondly, how the hell does an FAQ supersede the guideline itself? Who wrote the FAQ and within what consensus? The FAQ is wrong if it contradicts NSPORTS, not the other way around. 423:
discussion which was active, I think, for a fairly long period of time. Given that that's the most recent and wide ranging formal discussion (as far as I can tell) we should probably try and respect it. There's probably a need for various notability guidelines to be adjusted to reflect things like this.
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No, I'm saying that the close of that discussion made clear that it should not be acceptable to simply cite compliance with a subguideline of NSPORTS. That's what the close says and seems to generally reflect the consensus of that discussion (which, if I recall correctly, I didn't take part in) - a
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A list of supposedly "frequently asked questions" on a neutral encyclopedia is pointless as it assumes the ignorance of those involved and serves to answer questions in an absolute way which (people are claiming) have no absolute answer even though there are absolute notability criteria to hand
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Ha, ha. So you are saying that "suggests" takes precedence over "states"; that a "suggestion" from a discussion involving perhaps a dozen people takes precedence over an unequivocal statement in the introduction to WP:GNG. This illustrates how ridiculously illogical the whole stupid
323:- Ordinarily I would say merge into a list of Kandy cricket club players, that being the correct way to deal with raw statistical entries, but in this case the two major statistics aggregating sites disagree over whether this player was a first-class player. That means 206:
as he has played just 1 Match but the subject comprehensively fails the General Notability Guideline and has long retired last played the 1 match in in 1991-92 thus ending any scope of future contribution or any hope of meeting General Notability Guideline and as Per
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itself which states unequivocally: "A topic is presumed to merit an article if it meets either the general notability guideline below, or the criteria outlined in a subject-specific guideline listed in the box on the right; and it is not excluded under the
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despite the CA page because of the uncertainty created by the incomplete CI one. Even so, in answer to the incoherent nomination, I would point out that no one says SSG supersedes GNG. They are held to be equal per the introduction to
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And I'll point out once more that the FAQ of NSPORTS says that "The topic-specific notability guidelines described on this page do not replace the general notability guideline. They are intended only to stop an article from being
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Right, two things. One is that if there is "probably a need for various notability guidelines to be adjusted to reflect things like this" you do not blithely assume that the guidelines will be changed and act as if it is a
580:. This really does need to be reflected on sport guideline pages, though, as this can seriously mislead people. Also, I will note that less coverage has to be applied for this article to be considered notable. Also fails 498:
first-class level. I have a vague recollection of it being with one specific team but I forget which one. If the inconsistency was with Kandy YCC then I am willing to accept that there is disagreement between sources.
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subject-specific notability guidelines do not supersede the general notability guideline, except in clear cases where GNG does not apply to.NSPORTS does not supersede GNG.
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and the coverage is routine.Now the the subject has played a single match with his contribution being insufficient and has retired now the subject technically meets
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Does not meet GNG. Nothing to write about other than the single match he appeared in.
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when there is very strong reason to believe that significant, independent,
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argument has become. Which part of "either...or..." do you not understand?
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As it is the single most recent consensus on the notability of sport bios
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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is problematic, to say nothing of notability requirements.
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That's the badger. Sorry, memory not working. Cheers.
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