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I don't know about Wiki policies (deletion, notability, etc.) but I found this article to be very useful. It was exactly what I was looking for: technical discussion and lyrics. I hope it stays somewhere (Wiki or WikiSource(?)), as long as it's easy to find again, at least with a hot link from a
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