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serving a limited clientele, unlikely to become a household name anytime soon. Their apparent government work might confer importance, but given their security work, it's unlikely to generate a lot of press coverage. Simply being a "leader in their field" is puffery; and the Business Week reference
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The question is "How do we know they are leaders in their field?" Absent sourcing to establish this, then it is all conjecture. They sold something to NORAD. Do we have information about competitors? Do we know if a competitor has sold similar systems in much larger volumes? If we don't have
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this information, then we cannot establish that they are leaders in their field. And without independent sourcing, we don't know the significance of these sales. All we have a very short blurb from the online site for a group of Philadelphia area newspapers. --
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Well, in that case...and the fact that I did a more extended google/academic search which also turned up nothing...perhaps when some contract fraud or something newsworthy comes out, then they will be considered
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who also have a bunch of sales to the U.S. military and government, and if they are to be believed were also funded by the US Army
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who are "the market leading provider of fiber-optic based intrusion detection solutions for both government and industry"
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who list the US Air Force, US Army, US Border Patrol, US Dept. of Homeland Security, US, Navy, and NATO as customers
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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reference in the article is what would be considered some actual coverage and it is very thin indeed. --
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notability standards, all sources are primary/press releases except for a tiny blurb in a local paper.
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link provided by Smallmanq does not establish notability since it is a listing in a directory.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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http://www.laserfocusworld.com/display_article/156136/51/none/none/EDITO/No-mixed-signals
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They have a very "elite" set of clientele. Their technology will be used in
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And looking around to see who else is claiming to be a leader we have:
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to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
263:. I can find press releases and press release rehashes. Only 463:, I'm not convinced they are leaders in their field. -- 370:
a manufacturer of fiber optic perimeter security systems
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