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I'd prefer to keep the discussion here, myself. I think you've missed an important point; many more notable people have been called
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My point is that this isn't the place to decide what to do with the ancient theologian that most people think of as Origen, as his article plainly isn't up for deletion; given that the current format is that the theologian is at OofA, I proposed redirecting this article there, rather than altogether
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Links on disambiguation pages should only be to articles that exist on
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Please have a look at the "Modern Uses of the Name" that have been on the original Origen page (no pun intended!) for as long as I can remember... Are they really links to spam? In any case, there are two ancient
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