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that Outer Heaven is a frequently-recurring important plot point in his work (as this article should demonstrate), and because of this particular topic's confusing nature, listing it in pieces in subheadings inside different Hideo Kojima articles would provide less of a clear picture to the reader, acting more as random trivia than a proper explanation. If you feel that it is both repetitive (or as you put it, "totally duplicative") and unreferenced, you might consider eliminating this information from the original Metal Gear articles, and finding references for it. -
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I didn't say or imply that it was merely "Useful", as that would be an Argument To Avoid. To break it down: My arguments are that Hideo Kojima's work is highly influential, both in America and Japan (which I may assume that you would not debate, having not nominated his body of work for deletion),
269:. The only game in the series where Outer Heaven has any real relevance to the plot seems to be the original (where Outer Heaven is the name of the enemy fortress the player infiltrates). All the other mentions of Outer Heaven in the series are just that, throwaway references. 145:
The article is not notable, and has no references to verify its contents. As such, it is just an in-universe repetition of various plot facts from Metal Gear game articles, and is totally duplicative of those articles.
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If this persons works are as influential as you say, I am sure you will be able to find a good number of references that are needed to keep it.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Significant in Kojima's works. Whoever had been revising the article recently didn't put in references.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Well tell them to put some in, otherwise the article will have no proof of notability.
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Useful, unfortunately, is not a wikipedia guideline or criteria.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Explains a confusing, frequently recurring concept.
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
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Secret
00:31, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Outer Heaven
Articles for deletion/Outer Heaven
Articles for deletion/Outer Heaven (2nd nomination)
Articles for deletion/Outer Heaven Resistance
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21:59, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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16:43, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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