271:- Proposal B is totally out of order. What sort of notability is there here? Are we saying Knowledge (XXG) is a place where every comic which has been around for over 100 strips gains an article? What about bar room bands who have been around for a while. What about bloggers with 500 posts? Longevity as people seem to claim here, is not an instant claim to fame. Has this strip been mentioned anywhere outside the webcomic community? Has it received critical feedback and reviews from other respected journals/publications/magazines? Proposal B, just claims that if a webcomic exists, then it warrants an article. And people are agreeing? People have been attacking me from nominating webcomics, because of a personal dislike? This is totally incorrect, I was just pretty shocked when I saw the
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Hi SuperHappy, I at least read a bunch of webcomics, including some of yours. That doesn't mean I think it's the purpose of this encyclopedia to list every webcomic in existence. We're trying to discuss the inclusion criteria on
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Hahnchen clearly knows nothing about webcomics, and seeing him beng allowed to assert so much authority on them is puzzling, to say the least.
461:. A webcomic has no more automatic claim to notability than any other random website; and certainly a random website like this would need more than just extended existance and continuous updates to be notable. --
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