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437:. Not even the basic hyperlink works. The third so-called source is merely a definition of the LOLcat Bible Translation Project, written by some annonymous contributor. The fifth, well, that is also a blog. The sixth again returns nothing after many archival searches. In other words, only about two sources are reliable for this entry. The article should be merged with history of LOLcats, or something.Also, the fact of whether it is written well or not is not under dispute. Effort=/=Fact.-- 435: 373:, the guideline for stubs; being a stub is not a reason to delete an article. I also don't know what the nominator means by saying that the "chronicle" link is unaccessible; there's no mention of anything called the Chronicle in this article or its cites. Nor are there any inappropriately duplicated links in the references. -- 824:
under a different title; (2) it's available at archive.org as currently shown in the footnote; (3) there is no requirement that sources be available on line, so even if it were not currently available on-line that wouldn't affect its sufficiency as a source for the purposes of showing notability.
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Paraphrasing the wikipedia:tutorial, wikipedia policy is to build up stubs- and I see few sources which would allow this to be any more than a stub, and a short one at that- but stubs are not relevant to wikipedia.The links are rotted. For one thing the chronicle link currently on the page is
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unaccessbile. If it is to stay, it must be formatted. Other links are duplicates of each other, such as links 1 and 3 on the references list. That makes like 1 reliable source, and might I remind you that that is toppled by
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Well, the archive footnote doesn't work on my most advanced computer browser, with all settings on max. It didn't work two days in a row. If someone could connect this
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Maybe he means that this AfD should be speedy closed and another AfD about the article should be opened. I can't understand why. Why not simply comment in this AfD?
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criterion. I'm aware that another nomination of this page for deletion exists, but the crap has gotten even worse, since then. Hard to imagine, but true.
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Note to closing admin: Malleus's "delete" recommendation as the nominator has already been taken into account and should not be double-counted. --
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
170: 627: 432: 225: 218: 431:, I will show the sources, and why 80% of them are inaccurate. The first so-called source is a blog, here 328: 298: 546:. Reliable sources already present in the article; this project also was the subject of coverage by the 864: 803: 680: 631: 499: 438: 347: 275: 258: 229: 470: 343: 860: 821: 844: 830: 751: 702: 580: 524: 482: 456: 389: 374: 190: 555: 746:
Not to assume bad faith, but the only reason I can think of for that would be a dislike of the
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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some kind of blog. Suggest more than 2 sources that aren't some kind of blog, wikipedians.
254: 655: 559: 346:? Also, you're not allowed to vote twice, no matter who you are, on a proposed deletion.-- 659: 366: 826: 576: 551: 478: 55: 734: 420: 782: 663: 601: 137: 498:: I meant the Los Angeles Times link is inaccessible, not "the Chronicle".-- 50: 722: 434:. This is against wikipolicy. The second source is untraceable, see here 408: 253:
from the Chicago Tribune. More than enough to allow a stub-type article.
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Articles for deletion/LOLCat Bible Translation Project Second Nomination
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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broken. Perhaps your computer can't access archive.org? -
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Actually, (1) it's available on the L.A. Times website
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that this is notable. As the years go on, "moar" and
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Articles for deletion/LOLCat Bible Translation Project
203: 473:: "Several newspapers host columns that they call 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 892:). No further edits should be made to this page. 521:accessable right there in the References section 798:- 5the link to the Los Angeles Times article 595:list of Websites-related deletion discussions 8: 654:- this is really the third nomination, and 589: 750:, and hoping for a different result... - 593:: This debate has been included in the 74: 569:conference on internet pop culture at 365:. The article already has legitimate 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 619:: Very few of the cited sources are 548:Australian Broadcasting Corporation 72: 24: 701:what you mean by that comment? - 215:LOLCat Bible Translation Project 100:LOLCat Bible Translation Project 66:LOLCat Bible Translation Project 469:Regarding "blogs", please see 1: 873:18:17, 10 December 2010 (UTC) 855:01:53, 10 December 2010 (UTC) 835:01:18, 10 December 2010 (UTC) 812:01:06, 10 December 2010 (UTC) 656:we already have had consensus 519:Er...the LA Times article is 60:17:25, 15 December 2010 (UTC) 791:17:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC) 762:20:07, 9 December 2010 (UTC) 738:19:43, 9 December 2010 (UTC) 713:19:07, 9 December 2010 (UTC) 689:17:35, 9 December 2010 (UTC) 672:01:52, 9 December 2010 (UTC) 644:18:47, 8 December 2010 (UTC) 610:18:43, 8 December 2010 (UTC) 585:18:19, 8 December 2010 (UTC) 565:, and discussed at the 2008 535:18:08, 8 December 2010 (UTC) 508:17:01, 8 December 2010 (UTC) 487:18:19, 8 December 2010 (UTC) 463:08:28, 9 December 2010 (UTC) 447:14:10, 8 December 2010 (UTC) 424:07:20, 8 December 2010 (UTC) 400:06:45, 8 December 2010 (UTC) 381:04:55, 8 December 2010 (UTC) 356:03:58, 8 December 2010 (UTC) 335:03:48, 8 December 2010 (UTC) 305:03:38, 8 December 2010 (UTC) 284:03:24, 8 December 2010 (UTC) 263:02:45, 8 December 2010 (UTC) 909: 662:attest to its notability. 219:Knowledge (XXG):Notability 885:Please do not modify it. 344:Knowledge (XXG):ONEEVENT 32:Please do not modify it. 71:AfDs for this article: 839:As noted above, it's 371:Knowledge (XXG):Stub 288:By which policy? 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