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First of all, I never said YOU were a sock. I made an inadverdant undo. I apologize. As for the AFD, it has nothing to do with the sock, but rather the notability. You made a somewhat rationale case to keep below, and did make some improvements to the article. I still am unconvinced this passes
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are written in a way that indicate her name would be recognizable to a general audience, and she is discussed often enough in pieces concerning the relative success/marketability of female models of color. Seems to be a case of limited online accessibility to coverage rather than lack of coverage.
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This article should be maintained. Ms. Vyent reamins active as a model, she is continuing her career as a photographer, and she has many new projects in her photography career "in the pipe." She is a member of a group of Montclair, NJ artists and she may be having a special exhibition soon - but
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Having reflected on the articles I and others found, it does appear she crossed the threshold of notability. If there is some content debate over what should be in the article (there was some edit about whether her children should be mentioned i think) let's resolve that through editing, not
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that latter point is speculation for now. Nevertheless, she is a highly respected person in Montclair, and it's not her fault that she's not as well-known as her fellow Montclair resident Stephen Colbert! (Please keep it, as more biographical data on her will utlimately be available.)--
667:, if there is still any doubt. A cursory look at Google Books reveals lots of articles from the late 1980s that argue the subject was of historic importance in truly integrating fashion modeling. Tons of sources, from Ebony and Jet to NY Times to Richard Avedon shoots. 326: 323: 238:
Hmmm, I can't help it, but the sock has a point here. Destroying articles because a sock is working on it, is not the way. Assuming that everyone working on the article is a sockpuppet, as you did with me, goes too far.
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If he can't have it his way, then he wants it deleted. Knowledge (XXG) is an entity for everyone to edit. Try to nominate Wishology for deletion too.
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bad, and I am still not proud on the present article, but I really think she is notable due to her career in the pre-Internet period.
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If you read everything after the smiley, a reason is given that addresses WP:BIO; the smiley shows that the Dutch part is a joke.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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But I think the addition of sources is a more convincing reason. The original article
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Notable 80s model and still has an active dual career of modelling and photography.
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If the sources exist, why not add them? That would end this AfD fairly easily.
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lol, you claimed she appeared on one cover when it was actually at least 15.--
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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fails WP:BIO, appeared on one magazine cover of Vogue but not much else.
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Well said. I'll move to keep, and tag the article appropriately.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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please provide sources to back your claims. thanks.
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