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484:. Most of these sources are not reliable (in this case). Reliable sources do not base their reports on "rumors" and "our sources". Sure, the rumors are verifiable. But that is not enough. Remove the worst stuff and merge the rest to the main article. You can keep the "rumors" that are actually based on something, but if the source gives no information at all about their original source, get rid of it. --- 408:. I was going to say "merge", but every "fact" in the article regarding location turned out to be nothing more than a rumor, and several factoids don't even pertain to his location. I don't see how a collection of rumors would enhance the Bin Laden article. It should suffice to say that there have been many false reports of his death and unsubstantiated reports of his location. 138:- This article has little to no proof to the whereabouts of osama bin laden, if anyone had a clue where he was it would be the government. besides, with how easy it is to edit and defame and or deface an article these days, this page is just asking for vandalism or worse, propagandization. 723:
You raise good points, Peter, but to be perfectly honest, this is in my opinion an article that probably would work better merged to the main article (per my !vote above), if even that. Whatever I can say here at this point is already discussed herein, so I'll leave it at that.
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This article does not cite any reliable sources, except for a single BBC URL, so there is nothing worth merging. Every merged fact would have to be independently checked, so you might as well forget what's here now and start from scratch.
187:- "The whereabouts of Osama bin Laden are unknown" pretty much says it all. If an article consists mostly of "rumor has it" and "according to sources" then it's a news article, not an encyclopedia article. 215:- This is one of the biggest issues in the world right now... If we have articles for a bunch of random stuff most people have never heard of, we should definitely have an article for this. 231:
is rarely if ever a good reason for keeping an article. Articles stand or fall on their own merits, not because there are other articles on stuff that you consider "random."
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and be cross-referred with 'see also' at the end of the Location section of the main article. Even the rumours are noteworthy, bearing in mind his notability.
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An awful article based on blogs and other unreliable sources. if there's any legit info to salvage, put it on the main Osama page.
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as conjecture and OR. If there's any useful information (I see none here) beyond that, one can merge it into the article on
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if it ends up too short to stand alone (I don't have time now to follow-up but maybe I'll get back to it later today). A
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Is an article stating that no one knows where Osama is. Doesn't seem to merit its own page. Would support a merge with
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as it is full of speculation and OR. Feels a lot like crystalballery, just in a geographical sense. A redirect to
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
199:- this is just a collection of rumours and conjectures. What is of value - if anything - should be merged with 35:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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I'd support a delete and redirect, for what it's worth. IMO, we don't need that in the history. --
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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is also in order: a heading like "Sightings" makes it sound like we're talking about
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Again, please note that merge and delete is not a valid option. ---
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Well, I still feel the article is worthy of the article.
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
Kungfu Adam
15:21, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Location of Osama bin Laden
Location of Osama bin Laden
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
Osama bin Laden
Kntrabssi
12:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
unsigned
24.7.175.116
talk
08:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
SYSS Mouse
12:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr)
13:01, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Otto4711
13:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Osama bin Laden

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