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735:— due diligence is not being done when these tools are being used in this way. "Shoot them all and let the saps at AfD sort them out," is apparently the line of thinking. While I am personally sympathetic to the idea of a very high bar for so-called "Porn Bios," this blasting of 100 articles at the rate of 1 per minute, judging from the time logs, is not conducive to the spirit or practice of AfD. It is putting 740:
sororities. The net result of these efforts was a lot of lost time by article creators and AfD participants and a lot of lost information from those articles annihilated as part of these campaigns. Meanwhile, the backlog of crap at New Pages festers. Something needs to be done about this problem. Mine is not a unique view — see
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ahead of the established article deletion process and is disrespectful both to the work of article creators and those of us who volunteer our time at AfD. We have seen similar automated mass annihilation efforts recently against modern Trotskyist political organizations and against fraternities and
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A link to a google news search, while easy to copy and paste, does not establishes notability. Trivial coverage is excluded from GNG. Trivial tv roles plus a trivial modeling work (i.e.: being a playmate) does not sums up to a notable biography. Do you have specific examples of coverage about her?
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is not an award: It's a strategic commercial decision made by Playboy Corporation about how to better commercialize it products. Regardless of how much some Wikipedians love Playmates, we should write articles about them only when they were covered by independent third part sources. Also, texts
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That's where we differ from each other. You think the coverage is fluff because the content is fluff. I think the coverage is enough even if the subject may be fluff. The only intellectual independence (which is not mentioned in WP:GNG) I require is that the articles are not the same articles
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Multiple examples. I know it's harder to defy your argument when you just state their existence instead of showing them. But I expect the closing admin to avoid such purely assertive votes. This is not a democratic decision. --
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None of this seems to amount to "significant coverage" (would be more accurately characterised as 'insubstantial puffery') -- and can be summarised to 'she's a playmate and a basketballer's girlfriend'.
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Where do you see those tv credits? According to ibdb, she appeared in one episode of Fear Factor, 5 Playboy videos, and she was once on Howard Stern to promote it her magazine. --
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trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability. (...) Non-triviality is a measure of the depth of content of a published work
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Sorry dude, I was directing my previous response thinking you were the nominator. Your point still does not explain my quote from BASIC.
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Like I've repeated many times before, you are confusing depth of coverage with importance of the topic. I know you think it's all fluff.
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passing GNG. There's no playmatehood exception to GNG and that kind of coverage is not disqualified from notability.
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at ANI. We need to keep them all as a matter of principle and ban the future use of automated tools in this way.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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This argument will be copied-and-pasted in the debate sections for all automated AfDs of this campaign.
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Please, help us by elaborating on that. Being notable in your opinion is not an inclusion criteria. --
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The multiple reliable sources revealed in the Google news search I linked satisfies the floor of
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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and I keep stating you're confusing depth of coverage with importance of the subject. Hence,
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This follow right after the passage you quoted, but you removed it, loosing context. --
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are not the kind non-trivial coverage asked by the general notability criteria.
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films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions", so fails
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Television appearances listed in the article prove she is notable.
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coverage, which is what the coverage you link to exhibits, with "'
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Being a Playboy playmate does not make you notable
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02:13, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Hullaballoo Wolfowitz

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